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Scott Noseworthy
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Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 04:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here is the 1912 Caille 12 hp. I found last fall.



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Scott Noseworthy
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Scott Noseworthy
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here is a picture of the mag with my foot for a scale

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Scott Noseworthy
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after a good soaking it came apart easy

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Scott Noseworthy
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I've heard a lot of ways how to unstick a pistin the best way is to try them all





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Scott Noseworthy
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Scott Noseworthy
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split the cases
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Scott Noseworthy
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Scott Noseworthy
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The pistin and rod with pin weighted in at 19 pounds

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Scott Noseworthy
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And all of the castings cleaned and painted

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Scott Noseworthy
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A little machine work





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Scott Noseworthy
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Ready to go to the show at calvert if I can get it in the truck





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Scott Noseworthy
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Ready to go to the show at calvert if I can get it in the truck
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J.B. Castagnos
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Nice work Scott, enjoyed the pictures. Was the mag in bad shape? That's a different check valve than I'm used to seeing on Cailles. We'll be looking for it at Calvert. J.B.
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RichardDurgee
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Scott

Thanks for posting the photos, always interesting to see the old engines through the phases of redoing-- good work !

This 1912 ad from Caille Street in Detroit.


c12

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Robert
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Very nice work, thanks for posting. What is the HP and bore and stroke? Pushing the piston inward would scare the #^@% out of me though - in case it went too far, never to return!
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Richard A. Day Jr.
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Posted on Sunday, April 27, 2008 - 03:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nice work Scott. Looking forward to seeing it run at CMM. Just hope we get good weather,
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Scott Noseworthy
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thanks guys after cleaning the mud wasps out of the mag. I just used a soft brass brush and wd-40. The first time I triped it I got a blue spark. I'm still fussing with timing. The check valve spring was shot but I think I have the right one. After popping the piston out of the cyclinder with the grease gun 7 tubes. I only pressed in the same amount as it came out. It has a 5 1/4" bore and 5" stroke.



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J.B. Castagnos
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I didn't realize it was that big, must be an 8hp. First marine engine I sleeved was a 6hp Caille, 4 1/2" bore. Did you weigh the piston, guessing 10-12lbs.I wouldn't use the grease gun untill it was broken loose, a friend split the cylinder that way. When using the grease method, you can fill the cylinder with oil or water to fill the void, saves grease and mess.
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Ernie
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Posted on Sunday, April 27, 2008 - 09:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Scott,
Looking forward to seeing it run.
I thought you were kidding. It really is in your living room...
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John Davis
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Scott, very nice job on the restore. Great video on YouTube also. Did you know there is a 1922 Caille catalog that has your engine listed in it on Jack Craibs website? Your engine does appear to be 8hp. What was the big wash tub looking thing on the output shaft? My friend has a stationary GSM flywheel engine that uses that same magneto. You do not see that type of magneto that often.
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Andrew Menkart
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Posted on Wednesday, February 03, 2010 - 07:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nice job Scott.

Can you post a link to the YouTube video?

Thanks.
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John Davis
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Posted on Wednesday, February 03, 2010 - 07:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Scott's 8hp Caille video


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmGnHhk3Q6U
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John Davis
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Posted on Tuesday, May 25, 2010 - 11:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Scott, What color and brand of paint did you use to paint your Caille. Looks good and I would like to paint my twin cylinder Caille the same color if possible?
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Scott Noseworthy
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Lionel trains pecock green go to olsen train repair parts on line it was the best match to the coler I have on a caille row boat moter gas tank that I have. And my big Caille is a 12hp thanks fore posting the u-tube link Scott
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John Davis
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Posted on Wednesday, May 26, 2010 - 10:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Scott,

For some reason I could not get the Olsen site to come up. Sorry if I was wrong about the horse power of your Caille. I looked up the bore & stroke you posted 5-1/4 x 5 In the 1922 Caille catalog. See page below.

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Scott Noseworthy
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your right John 5&1/4" by 5" is 8hp for some reason I thought mine is 5$3/4" by 6" mite have posted it wrong. I'm not that great with the key Bord Now that I'm confused I will recheck and let you know it mite help if I red my own posts no harm. well try to get you more info on the paint
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Scott Noseworthy
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Olsen's toy train part's (216)226-0444
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Scott Noseworthy
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5&1/4" by 5" ti is but dos not look like the engine in this ad it looks like the engine in the ad that Ernie posted a little further down in the caille topic Scott
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Robert
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A nice restoration and from the video a smoother running engine than I would expect.
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John Davis
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Posted on Monday, June 07, 2010 - 09:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for the number Scott.
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John Davis
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Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2010 - 05:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Scott,

Tried to email you using email address from this forum but keep getting kicked back.

I now have a small section on my website for Caille marine engine photos & literature. Wondering if you would like me to post some before and after restoration photos and/or the video of your Caille? If yes please email me some photos. The larger the photos the better.

By the way I ordered some of that peacock green or blue paint from Olsens. Thanks for the info.
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Ernie
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By way the video is mine. Feel free to use any of the 176ernie youtube vids on your site.
There is also one of Linda Olbrys and her Detroit from Mystic last year.

Nice work on your web page I haven't looked at it in a while
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John Davis
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Posted on Thursday, July 08, 2010 - 11:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thank's Ernie, I like that Detroit video also. I guess Detroit's advertisements back in the day stating that their engines are so easy to start that a woman or child can start them were correct.
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John Davis
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Posted on Thursday, October 07, 2010 - 11:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

1913 Caille Advert.

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