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kevin lang
Advanced Member
Username: klanger
Post Number: 48
Registered: 03-2012
| | Posted on Monday, October 13, 2014 - 10:09 pm: | 
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I am soon to pick up this Type K engine, and will be looking for some help with a few items.
Wlii be needing a water pump coupling to suit, see photo of broken coupling and water pump.
I will also be needing a timer or info on what to replace it with. I dont have a clear photo of the timer yet but dont think there's much left of it.
Would also appreciate any brochures, manuals or any other info available.
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Robert B. Price
Senior Member
Username: rbprice
Post Number: 477
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2014 - 08:48 am: |
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Hello Kevin - give a few days to look through my Ferro literature and see if I can send you some helpful information. That water pump does not look familiar to me, but the carburetor is genuine Ferro.
Bob |
Dick Briggs
Member
Username: dick
Post Number: 26
Registered: 07-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2014 - 10:29 am: |
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Looks to be a smaller engine, but the water pump has similarities. Hope this helps some.
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kevin lang
Advanced Member
Username: klanger
Post Number: 49
Registered: 03-2012
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2014 - 10:21 pm: |
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Robert, any infomation you have on my engine type, or that would be similar would be greatly appreciated
Dick, Does look like the same water pump.
Is that your engine?
Regards,
Kevin |
Robert B. Price
Senior Member
Username: rbprice
Post Number: 480
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Monday, October 20, 2014 - 10:58 am: |
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Kevin - here is a snap shot of the connecting rod for your pump. It was copied from my 1911 Ferro catalog. If you send me your snail mail address I can copy the whole catalog and send it to you for the copying cost plus some postage.
Cheers
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J.B. Castagnos
Senior Member
Username: jb_castagnos
Post Number: 962
Registered: 07-2002
| | Posted on Monday, October 20, 2014 - 09:34 pm: |
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I have this one, fits a 3" eccentric. Looks like it had a rough life, a little deformed where it splits. I could have one re cast if necessary.
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kevin lang
Advanced Member
Username: klanger
Post Number: 50
Registered: 03-2012
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2014 - 07:01 am: |
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Hi Robert,
Thank you for the info from your catalogue. The pump shown looks very similar to mine, but differs in the way it's mounted.
Mine is the same as the one in Dicks picture.
J.B,
Thank you for the offer, when I get my engine engine I will measure the eccentric and will see where we are at. Yours looks the same as the one in Roberts post above, but hopefully the couplings are the same size.
This engine will bring bigger challenges for me than the 2 engines I'm working on at the moment, and the help I receive from here will be invaluable.
Regards,
Kevin |
Robert B. Price
Senior Member
Username: rbprice
Post Number: 481
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2014 - 02:12 pm: |
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The difference is probably only in the way the pump body is attached to the base plate. Chances are the plunger diam. and length are the same. |
kevin lang
Senior Member
Username: klanger
Post Number: 51
Registered: 03-2012
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2014 - 08:33 pm: |
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Your probably right.
It's what I'm hoping anyway.
Thanks
Kev |
kevin lang
Senior Member
Username: klanger
Post Number: 53
Registered: 03-2012
| | Posted on Saturday, November 01, 2014 - 04:09 am: |
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Picked up the engine today, and it's still in the back of the car.
It had been disassembled by the owner as he had started to clean it up, so we packed it into tubs to bring home, it took 2 of us to pick up the crankcase with crank and flywheel.
This is one big engine, had no idea how big it was.
Well started to get an idea when JB said he had a water pump strap that was 3"
Found out it was a stationary engine, and had never seen salt water.
The flywheel measures 171/2" diam. x 3" thick at the rim.
If used in a boat, how big would've the boat been?
Kev |
kevin lang
Senior Member
Username: klanger
Post Number: 54
Registered: 03-2012
| | Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2014 - 04:26 am: |
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Anyone think the timer can be saved. ha ha
Looks like someone cobbled something together to get it to run. |
Robert B. Price
Senior Member
Username: rbprice
Post Number: 484
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2014 - 08:02 am: |
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Of course that timer can be saved Kevin!! You have almost all of the parts and they can be duplicated readily. The hard part is the contact spring but I would suggest there is a similar part used on some other timer. I can't see the whole cover but it looks like it might be an Atwater-Kent. |
Ernie
Senior Member
Username: ernie
Post Number: 1899
Registered: 01-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2014 - 08:24 am: |
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Kevin,
You have the remains of the original Ferro timer. Lots of good drawings in the info I sent you.
However...Just use a set of car points.
Saved several timers that way. In fact what you have looks like car points already.
Once you have a cover back on the timer nobody will ever know what is inside.
Just go to an auto parts store that has a knowledgable counter person that will let you look at the buyers guide. There are hundreds of styles. No condenser needed when used on a buzz coil
You could use a set of small engine points too giving even more choices.
Here is a pic I got on the net.
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kevin lang
Senior Member
Username: klanger
Post Number: 55
Registered: 03-2012
| | Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2014 - 08:56 pm: |
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Thanks Robert and Ernie, My comment was aimed mainly at the condition of the points, and unfortunatly what you see is all I have of the timer, So I will be on the lookout for a suitable cover.
Ernie, I had noticed that the timmer handle was a Ferro and that a new set of points would be the way to go. The pic will be most helpfull when talking to a 'knowledgable' counter person, they seem harder to find than old engines.
Regards, Kev |
Ernie
Senior Member
Username: ernie
Post Number: 1901
Registered: 01-2002
| | Posted on Friday, November 07, 2014 - 08:34 am: |
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Kevin,
The way the cam is set up in your timer they most likely were using a car coil. The points were closed most of the time.
To use car points and a Buzz coil you would need to change the timer cam to a piece of round stock with a flat about 1/8 to 3/16 of an inch wide vertically.
Buzz coil points/contacts need to be open most of the time and close only when you want spark. |
kevin lang
Senior Member
Username: klanger
Post Number: 56
Registered: 03-2012
| | Posted on Friday, November 07, 2014 - 05:59 pm: |
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Thanks Ernie, learning more each day. |
