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miro
Senior Member
Username: miro
Post Number: 183
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 19, 2005 - 12:22 pm: | 
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Guys - this one is a classic - SAVE FROM THE DUMP case.
Saw it at a power show.
Any ideas?
Miro
It is free and has enough compression that it might fire on the first spin.
It was in a boathouse, then barn for decades, near Parry Sound. |
miro
Senior Member
Username: miro
Post Number: 184
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 19, 2005 - 12:26 pm: |
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One more picture
Actually had some more but they were 49.6 KBytes and I guess that it was rounded up to 50 and was therefore rejected :={
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richarddurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 793
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 19, 2005 - 06:31 pm: |
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Miro
The bracket cast in the rear of the cylinder and supporting the top of the water pump piston is a unique design !
My notes say Fifield Brothers, Augusta, Maine, about 1910-1911 made a low speed 2 stroke, trade name "Capital" with this feature ?? I don't have any photos of these engs to compare with though ! |
searcher
Advanced Member
Username: searcher
Post Number: 45
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 20, 2005 - 12:17 am: |
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I have a Capital catalog c.1910. Along with a couple of multi-cylinder marine engines, the catalog illustrates two, single-cylinder, marine engines. The 5 to 6 hp medium speed engine has a water pump arrangement somewhat similar to the unknown engine. However, the Capital bracket is clearly a bolt on device and not cast into the cylinder as it is on the unknown. There any resemblance between the two engines ends, the Capital and the unknown are quite different in concept and design.
The 2 1/2 hp high speed Capital illustrated in the catalog has a more conventional approach to attaching the water pump and does not use a bracket. That engine is also quite different in design than the unknown.
I have a c.1915 Capital that is very much like the 1910 version illustrated in the catalog except by 1915 they no longer drilled and tapped the boss so it would accept a cylinder oiler. I suppose the unknown could be earlier than 1910. There is also the possibility that Fifield Brothers bought part of their line from different manufacturers and simply rebadged them. That would not surprise me as I have yet to find a reference that indicates Fifield Brothers ran a foundry. The Fifield Brother's operation appears to have been primarily a machine shop early on. In the teens, they added an automobile service/garage to the operation. By 1919, though still at the same address as listed in the 1910 catalog, the Fifield Brothers letterhead no longer makes reference to the sale of engines.
Sorry, I digress. If the unknown is a Capital, it is a totally different design than the others except for some resemblance of the pump attachment method on the one engine. |
ernie
Senior Member
Username: ernie
Post Number: 526
Registered: 01-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 20, 2005 - 06:54 am: |
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I agree with Searcher. I really don't think it is a Capital. |
andrew
Moderator
Username: andrew
Post Number: 1176
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 20, 2005 - 05:42 pm: |
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I have two small engines that look like that... I "think" they are Midland
Regards,
andrew |
doug11k
Member
Username: doug11k
Post Number: 8
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 20, 2005 - 09:32 pm: |
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Saw this at a show in Bar Harbor. Supposed to be a Capitol. Don't know much about it however. |
searcher
Advanced Member
Username: searcher
Post Number: 46
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 20, 2005 - 10:38 pm: |
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The photo posted by Doug11K is very likely a five to six hp, medium speed, Capital, sold by the Fifield Brothers in Augusta, Maine. The bolt on support for the pump as seen here is correct for this engine. The method of support for the pump shaft on the unknown has some similarities in concept to the Capital but the execution is quite different. |
ernie
Senior Member
Username: ernie
Post Number: 529
Registered: 01-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, July 21, 2005 - 07:14 am: |
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I think Andrew's post with a link to his Midland engines Id's this one. The top pic is Andrew's Midland
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andrew
Moderator
Username: andrew
Post Number: 1177
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, July 21, 2005 - 08:37 am: |
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I would certainly agree that the engine in Miro's photo is the same as mine... but I must also say that I am not certain that my engines are Midland. I have been told by various sources that they are, but they don't have nameplates and I haven't seen any advertising literature that shows that model specifically.
Does anyone have other Midland ads or catalog info? |
richarddurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 796
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, July 21, 2005 - 05:53 pm: |
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Sure looks like same cylinder casting ! maybe different model or year ?? Miro's engine is one casting, cylinder and crankcase ! Andrews is two castings.
Looked through my photo files, no Midlands to compare with ! |
