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richarddurgee
| | Posted on Monday, November 25, 2002 - 01:12 am: | 
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Was going through file photos and came across this
one filed as unknown.A few years ago this picture
was taken at the Chesapeake Bay Maritime Museum,
St michaels,MD.I have e-mailed them as to its identity.
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Ernie
| | Posted on Monday, November 25, 2002 - 08:18 am: |
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Richard,
It's a "Col-Det-Ter-Dow" Being part:
Columbia, Detroit,Termatt and Monahan and Sandow
Up here in the NE USA we call them Deternahan's for short.
Ross Gould from Chatham, MA has at least one of each and would be the best to identify just which of these it might be.
Hope this helps
Ernie |
richarddurgee
| | Posted on Monday, November 25, 2002 - 01:40 pm: |
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Ernie,
That seems to be a perfect inclusive term for this
genre of marine engines!
Good news----- Bad news
Good news-- is after looking into crankcase casting, flywheel design, etc. seems this one is a Termaat & Monahan about 1902.
Bad news--- After reading the 1902 factory catalog
there's a paragraph naming the original paint color? now the multitudes that have one of these in their collection will be tormented untill it's properly attired! Have not had good luck with text attachments being readable, if this doesn't work I'll try it again,( just reminded myself that I lerarned this lesson years ago dating a school teacher, if I did something wrong, she demanded that I do it over and over and over again
untill I got it right??)
And now what exactly is "dark steel blue"?? |
Richard Day
| | Posted on Monday, November 25, 2002 - 04:48 pm: |
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Richard, About 40 years ago I restored a T&M for a very nice chap now deceased. His widow sold the engine and I lost track of it. It was serial number 127 and every part was so numbered. I guess it was before the days of big production and like early Lathrops mating parts had to be hand fitted. In the April 19, 1924 Motorboat you will find a write up of a number of the early engine builders and T & M was one of them. He went on to be a giant in the engine industry I should add. Ernie's point is well taken a number of people made knockoffs of T & M. His very early tag was oval about 2"H X 3"W and cast bronze with raised letters. |
richarddurgee
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 27, 2002 - 12:34 am: |
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On the T & M engine above, that is a grease cup
on the front of the crankshaft.
Any one know of any other engine makers that used this system ??
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richarddurgee
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 27, 2002 - 03:14 am: |
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Dick,
Your mention of the first old hand fitted engines and the engine manufacturers change over to
what i guess you would say to be the simultaneous
concepts of interchangable parts and mass production, reminded me of an article in an old
publication ( that i'm looking for and can't find)
about one of the first Makers to achieve this
capability, and their effort to get the idea out to the public. They staged a "Practical Demonstration", with several(six I think)same model
inboard engines in boats they proceeded up the waterway, converging at a given site,they then
completly disassembled all of the engines, mixed up the parts, reassembled them, fired them all up and proceeded on their way ! Now even a new phrase to describe this Practical Demonstration-- A Publicity Stunt ??. |
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