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| Schebler Model D Carburetor Instructions |
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andrew
| | Posted on Sunday, January 27, 2002 - 08:50 pm: | 
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I have copied some original instructions for the Schebler model D Carburetor onto a page on the site.
I have also had some people ask what the dates of production were for the Schebler carburetor... can anyone help with this....?
Thanks.
Andrew
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miro
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 29, 2002 - 06:02 pm: |
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Thanks for the effort Andrew - it makes this web site one of the BEST!
miro |
miro
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 29, 2002 - 06:12 pm: |
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Andrew - have you tried the Acadia Foundry folks - they apparently bought or have the patterns and might actually still make the carbs. I suspect they might know or have an old fellow who might know, more detail.
miro |
andrew
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 29, 2002 - 06:37 pm: |
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Miro,
Thanks...
No I haven't spoken with the Acadia Foundry folks.. I really don't know who has the Acadia engine or parts foundry patterns now.
When I was in Nova Scotia five or six years ago I stopped in at the Lunenburg Foundry where they made the Atlantic engines. They had their own float carburetor that was a copy of the Schebler. They had a fair amount of carburetors and parts, but the prices were extreamly high. I didn't see patterns for the carbs... I assume that they cast the parts themselves, but I don't know that for sure.
It would be nice to have someone manufacturing them now the way that someone is making Lunkenhiemer style mixers... but I would guess that the market is very small and it would be a significant money looser for whoever would try.
It's great that Paul Gray is making replacement floats.
Regards,
Andrew |
Richard Day
| | Posted on Thursday, January 31, 2002 - 07:55 pm: |
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Andrew I think it prudent to add a couple of notes. First the gasket at N is required if the engine is to idle down properly and the needle valve setting is to not have to be adjusted over the range of possiblethrottle plate settings. The gasket under the valve cover U is not present on those Model Ds with a ground joint at U. Setting the air valve has to be done under load. Opening the throttle on an engine that is not secured to a proper engine bed in a boat for example could be very dangerous. One must remember the proper propeller load holds the top RPM of the engine to its recomended safe operating speed. The air valve really only comes in to play when the throttle plate is well open and idleing an engine at a show will not have much if any effect from the seting of M. No gasket should be used between the air horn and cover, cover rim and bowl and bowl and throttle plate. Examination will show a milled slot on the lower inlet face to the carburetor throat that allows excess fuel to drain out of the intake to the throat. The best packing for the nut on the needle valve is modern Teflon round packing. There are a lot of Model Ds around that have no floats and all one has to do is pick up the size needed and put in one of Paul Grays floats. When looking for a used Model D avoid the units that some idiot has used steel screws in place of the original brass screws. Avoid units where the retaining screws for the J axle have been replaced with steel screws or are so messed up they cannot be removed. Keep in mind that the hex head retaining nut for the valve H must be removed gently to remove the valve H. In my opinion one should be able to find good rebuildable Model Ds for less than $20.00 as they are useless without a good float.
I believe the Model D was patented in 1901 and went out of production in the mid 1930s, The Lunenburg units while functional were not finished to the high degree Scheblers were up until the mid 1930s. My thoughts for today. |
andrew
| | Posted on Thursday, January 31, 2002 - 09:58 pm: |
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Dick,
Thanks...
I will ad your comments on the page with the instructions.
Regards,
Andrew |
Joe
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 13, 2002 - 11:22 pm: |
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Andrew, I also visited the Lunenburg Foundry in Nova Scotia (Lunenburg Foundry and Engineering) a while back, like maybe 1985, and was given the grand tour which included the pattern room where they did indeed have patterns for the Schebler D. I asked about it and was told that they had to make their own as Schebler could not meet their demand for carbs. When I was there a different time, long after they stopped making their Atlantic engines, I was wandering through the place and found a Double 5....their two cyl. 10hp, under an old tarp. I went to the office and asked if they had any engines for sale and was told that they had none. I said what about the one in the back and the man said I don't know anything about it....lets take a look. He was surprised and returned to the office to find out about it. It turned out that the engine had been brought in for a rebuild 15 YEARS before and was never picked up. He was happy to sell it to me and not just for the repairs. I think he added 15 years of storage. I was happy to have it and it sits at my place. .........Joe |
Richard Welsh
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Username: dick56
Post Number: 1
Registered: 07-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, July 22, 2006 - 01:27 am: |
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where does this Paul Gray live? Any phone numbers? Thank you. |
Doug kimball
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Username: doug11k
Post Number: 29
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, July 22, 2006 - 06:18 am: |
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Paul Gray makes the floats & Dave Reed markets & sells them.
OTTO Gas Engine Works
2167 Blue Ball Road
Elkton, MD 21921-3330
(410)398-7340
Dave.Reeddol.net
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