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Searcher
Senior Member
Username: searcher
Post Number: 83
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, February 09, 2006 - 10:40 am: | 
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Here is a small float feed carburetor I bought on speculation that I might eventually find the engine that it fit. There are no markings on it other than two, hand stamped, five digit serial numbers, one on the top and one on the side. Both numbers are on the same cast part so it is unlikely that both are serial numbers. The number on the top is 12157. The number on the side is 12406. Is it wishful thinking that the number on the side is the date of manufacture, i.e., January 24, 1906? Any ideas on the manufacturer or the engine that this carburetor was intended to fit would be appreciated.   |
Barry Millar
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Username: barry
Post Number: 23
Registered: 02-2006
| | Posted on Friday, November 17, 2006 - 10:33 am: |
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I have one of the same carbs that I recently discovered in Ontario, Canada in the area north of Kingston. I like you do not know the manufacturer.
Barry
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RichardDurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 1334
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Friday, November 17, 2006 - 11:20 am: |
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Going through my carb list the only one that shares many similar traits with these carbs is this one a 1906-07. If it is the same mfgr The carbs above would be an earlier model 1904-05 ??
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Searcher
Senior Member
Username: searcher
Post Number: 161
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Friday, November 17, 2006 - 06:24 pm: |
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Barry,
I pulled out my carburetor and it is virtually identical to yours in every respect except I don't see a serial number on the top of yours. Maybe it is stamped somewhere else. Actually, there are two five digit numbers on the upper half of mine as I noted in the earlier post.
Here is an ad from a 1906 Rudder magazine. The carburetor in that ad is identical to the one in Richard's ad. If I had that particular issue of Rudder, I would go back and get a better photo. I know that it was not from the February 1906 issue because I do have that one.
There is considerable resemblance between our two carburetors and the carburetor in the two ads. However, such a resemblance alone is not really enough to solidly identify the ones you and I have. For instance, look at the Schebler D knock offs, i.e., the Monarch, the General Valve, or the copy made in Lunenburg, Nova Scotia. From a few feet away, you would be hard put to know they weren't Schebler D's.
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Barry Millar
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Username: barry
Post Number: 24
Registered: 02-2006
| | Posted on Friday, November 17, 2006 - 07:28 pm: |
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Searcher,
The one feature that is present in all three versions is the flange at the inlet side, no tapped holes, no obvious purpose, but the exact same shape.
My carb has stamped numbers on the side but not on the top, number 12552.
The throttle control is a very precision rotary mechanism, more elegant than the usual butterfly style or swing style of the Scheblers.
I’m attaching an advertisement of a St Lawrence carburetor that shows this swivel throttle mechanism. I have been unable to locate any examples of the St Lawrence carb. However since mine was discovered about 50 miles from the St Lawrence factory, I cannot help but wonder if there is a connection.
Like you, I am most interested in solving this mystery.
Regards
Barry
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John Davis
Senior Member
Username: johnny
Post Number: 54
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Monday, November 20, 2006 - 09:32 am: |
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It appears that the Detroit Auto Marine Co. used this type of carb on some of their engines. See photo on page 130 of Wendells BYB. |
Searcher
Senior Member
Username: searcher
Post Number: 163
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Monday, November 20, 2006 - 11:23 am: |
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I looked up P. 130 in the BYB. If I look real hard, I can see that one has the same arrangement as the carburetor in the ad Richard posted. Barry's and mine must be related to that type though. |
DickieGibbens
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| | Posted on Monday, November 20, 2006 - 11:44 am: |
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I remember seeing a data plate on an engine made, or sold by, Speed Changing Pulley Company. The search engine ASK gets all kinds of leads, mostly around Anderson, IN. |
RichardDurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 1338
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Monday, November 20, 2006 - 10:25 pm: |
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RichardDurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 1339
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 21, 2006 - 10:14 am: |
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This is Model D that came out in 1907- called Universal. The carb on the engine above (1909) is a later design than this one !!
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