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bud_tierney
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Username: bud_tierney

Post Number: 49
Registered: 10-2009
Posted on Sunday, November 10, 2013 - 01:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Binsse Machine Co (who built boring bars etc in Newark) was listed in 1913/14 as the mfr(adds in Harrison, NJ) of a gasoline auto engine named "Howard"...
Google has a "spec sheet" for Howard 4 and 6 cyl engines, pub by Binsse, 1912...
Wm S/WS Howard was into cars early as well as marine engines and launches; some of his engines sold thru Grant-Ferris Co, Troy, NY, while WS was there...
There're Grant-Ferris/Howard ads posted here from 1901, and one from 1908 showing a Howard 4cyl inline...
I found one Binsse ad, 1913, showing a very clean 6cyl, maybe pairs of three, obviously a car (not marine) engine...
Std Cat US cars states, in the Howard car thumbnail, that WS developed a rotary sleeve valve engine built for him, in 1912, by New York Motor works...
Do any of the marine engine ref books/histories have anything tying WS Howard to the 1912/13 Binsse-Howard???
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richarddurgee
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Patent applied 1911 issued 1917

https://www.google.com/patents/US1214922?dq=1214922+A&hl=en&sa=X&ei=qGt_UsvZBMqzkAeLjIGwDQ&ved=0CE0Q6wEwAw



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bud_tierney
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Richard: Many thxx!! I wonder if a couple of those mesne patent assignments were into and later out of Binsse...
Tried the NJ online business name search to see if Binsse two companies or a move, but got "no record". What some (many?) of these online sites don't mention is that they don't go all the way back (usually takes $$$)...
Interestingly, the Binsse engine ad didn't state they were mfr, just "six cyl engines available"...
Would a rotary sleeve-valve engine have any external parts/projections that would give the design away?? The engine in the pic (pass side) looked a completely conventional vertical inline, very clean lines (no tech info in small ad)...

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