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brianharvey
New member
Username: brianharvey
Post Number: 2
Registered: 09-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 - 04:37 pm: | 
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Andrew is kindly posting some pics of an Eagle I have discovered.
Does anyone have any information about it and is it worth taking home? |
andrew
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Username: andrew
Post Number: 1106
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 - 05:10 pm: |
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Here are Brian's photos:
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richardday
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Username: richardday
Post Number: 376
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 04:14 pm: |
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In my opinion they are always worth taking home if there are not a number of them in good condition around. Reason being someone trying to restore one may be able to figure out what he needs to make or find. I pick them up and set them in my "retirement home" for old one lungers. Just set them up out of the grass on cement blocks and they can pass their retirement years without resusitation and you don't have to worry about a living will that may not stand up to family members. |
brianharvey
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Username: brianharvey
Post Number: 4
Registered: 09-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 12:42 am: |
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I dont know of any of these engines and wondered whether it was sensible to take home and be put with all of the other engines I have. They all seem to be a bit of a 'dead loss' apart from Clae, Simplex and Wing which seem to be regularly "robbed".
Thanks for your thoughts |
richarddurgee
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Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 733
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 10:14 am: |
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I believe the engine above was made by "The Eagle Co." of Newark, New Jersey. This design, headless cylinder casting with flange to crankcase, round inspection cover plates, wing like mounting pads
etc was Mfgred in late 1909 thru 1912. The most outstanding feature of this old one lunger is it's split hub flywheel ! Any other known old marine single 2 cycle engs with split flywheels ?? |
brianharvey
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Username: brianharvey
Post Number: 5
Registered: 09-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 12:52 pm: |
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Thanks for info, Richard. I am asking Andrew to post another pic for us. |
andrew
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Username: andrew
Post Number: 1108
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 01:14 pm: |
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Here is Brian's other pic:
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keith
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Username: keith
Post Number: 187
Registered: 02-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 02:53 pm: |
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Richard
The "Fisherman" made in Baltimore, MD, has a split flywheel. |
brianharvey
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Username: brianharvey
Post Number: 10
Registered: 09-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 03:22 pm: |
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I've been digesting your comments, Richard.
I think that I will take it home and have a go at doing something with it. At least clean it up a bit. Who knows what this will lead to. I know of no Eagle owners so it is not much use for parts. But maybe it's worth looking after for it's interest value. Thanks again. |
miro
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Username: miro
Post Number: 165
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Friday, March 25, 2005 - 08:45 am: |
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Lat's face it - the alternative to the "retirement home" is to be melted down for rebar destined for China or India. Let'em use old cars for that!
miro |
andrew
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Username: andrew
Post Number: 1110
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Friday, March 25, 2005 - 09:27 am: |
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Brian,
I have three Eagle engines, a single cylinder and two twin cylinder models... so there are a few around. One was made in NJ and the others in Torrington, Connecticut.
I've seen Dick's "retirement home" engine area, it's a nice concept.
The better maritime museums do the same thing with certain boats... they try to preserve them in "as found" condition with no intention of restoring them... but keeping them available for researchers and scholars. |
richardday
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Username: richardday
Post Number: 378
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Friday, March 25, 2005 - 11:01 am: |
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I have a few Eagle parts that are good but don't have a clue what models they go to. Just collecting dust if someone has a picture of an eagle that I could work with I will try to figure out what I have. |
brianharvey
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Username: brianharvey
Post Number: 11
Registered: 09-2003
| | Posted on Friday, March 25, 2005 - 05:16 pm: |
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Thank you all for your comments. I know of no other Wagles here in Tasmania although I don't know everything! Maybe I don't know anything? But I was rather intrigued to see this engine.
My "retirement home" is about 20 engines but few are ever needed for parts.
The single gas motors in most of the boats that friends own are Simplex, followed by Clae. After that, I guess, they are fairly evenly divided between Hicks, Regal, Chapman and Pilot.
Thanks again. |
richarddurgee
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Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 734
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Friday, March 25, 2005 - 06:36 pm: |
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Here Goes !!!
Some notes and photo ads of Eagle Marine Engines!
Eagle engs were made under 4 different Mfg Names.
1. Eagle Bicycle Co. 1901-1906
Is that a hinged cover over Make & break ?
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2. Progressive Mfg Co. 1906 late 1909
A side Shaft two stroke ??
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3. The Eagle Co. late 1909-1912
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4. The Standard Co. 1913--17 ? don't think they made it through WWI ?
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brianharvey
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Username: brianharvey
Post Number: 12
Registered: 09-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, March 27, 2005 - 01:19 am: |
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Thanks Richard and other posters for supplying the info you have. You have all nicely nudged me so that I think I should take it home to add to my clutter! I've asked my boating mates and none can tell me of an Eagle in a present or past Tasmanian boat. Thanks again. |
peter_dixon
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Username: peter_dixon
Post Number: 4
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Monday, March 28, 2005 - 04:09 am: |
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I seem to remember someone telling me years ago that there was a motor dingy in the 1950's in Wynyard, Tas. with an Eagle engine. I will look into it soon. It would have been an old engine then. |
richarddurgee
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Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 965
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, February 09, 2006 - 10:25 am: |
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1913
This is the best detail I could get from an ad !
Bob L.in Louisiana is restoring an engine like this !
Anyone have a catalog with this timer, or detailed photos of one ??
Maybe we'll see it at at Calvert ??
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searcher
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Username: searcher
Post Number: 84
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, February 09, 2006 - 10:13 pm: |
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The timer is very similar to a Monarch Timer Type B, Benford Mf'g Co., Mt. Vernon, NY.
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richarddurgee
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Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 971
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, February 12, 2006 - 07:35 am: |
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Searcher
"Thanks" for the I.D. and photos of the Monarch timer! Hopefully Bob L. can now find or make one and get his Eagle running. |
searcher
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Username: searcher
Post Number: 195
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Monday, June 18, 2007 - 08:39 pm: |
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The following two engravings are from the March 1912 issue of The Rudder. Clearly, the engraving of the Eagle and the American Boy are one and the same. The Eagle ad lists Bruns Kimball & Co. as a distributer of Eagle marine engines (you may not be able to read the list after resizing of the photo). However, Bruns Kimball & Co. apparently also sold the Eagle marine engine under their own label as the American Boy. Did the Eagle Co. actually manufacture these engines in their own foundry or did Eagle simply retag somebody else's engines as well?
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richarddurgee
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Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 1494
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 20, 2007 - 09:42 pm: |
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I have asked myself many times- What qualifies an engine Co.to be a manufacturer ?? Most every Co. outsourced some parts for their engines, very few had foundrys, made crankshafts, cams,carburetors, timers, reverse gears,oilers, etc ??
As to The Eagle Co.they moved 3 times and had 4 different Company names, this 1905 ad claims they were a manufacturer of The Eagle and Union engines ? The eagle we know about but I have not figured out the Union engine, it seems it was not a marine engine-- any ideas ??
1905
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searcher
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Username: searcher
Post Number: 196
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, June 21, 2007 - 12:08 am: |
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I will check the early issues of some of my magazines to see if I can't come up with something on the Union engine. |
richarddurgee
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Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 1495
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, June 21, 2007 - 07:43 pm: |
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Eagle Bicycle Mfg Co. became The Progressive Manufacturing Co. 1906-09, the stationary engine-last photo may have been the Union engine ??
This is a different design than the marine engines ? UNION ?
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searcher
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Username: searcher
Post Number: 197
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, June 28, 2007 - 09:56 pm: |
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Richard,
This Union Engine was built in San Francisco so it isn't related to the Union built by Eagle but thought it interesting anyway.
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richarddurgee
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Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 1499
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Friday, June 29, 2007 - 08:13 am: |
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My notes have 4 different listings for Union Marine Engines. this Union Engine Works in San Francisco ( Oakland California after 1906} were the sucessors to the Regan Vapor Engines in the 1880's . This 1922 ad claims 37 yrs experience .
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searcher
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Username: searcher
Post Number: 198
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, June 30, 2007 - 09:36 pm: |
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Richard,
Going back to your post on March 25, 2005 regarding the end of the Standard Eagle. You thought the company may have gone out of business in 1917 but left a question mark after that date. I just ran through a bunch of old Rudder magazines and it looks like you are probably right. The last ad I found was in the March 1917 issue. I am missing a few of the 1917 issues so they may have gone a bit longer but I find nothing in the 1918 issues I have.
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thomas
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Username: thomas
Post Number: 273
Registered: 07-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 08:27 pm: |
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I just was "given" an Eagle that appears to be the 1906 ish version. (The 1hp to 3.5hp in litho)
I will try to send some pictures but I have misplaced the instructions to what the jpg file limits are. ANYWAY, if someone has some good close-ups of the igniter (it's a doozie!!) I really would appreciate pictures.
Thanks
Tom Stranko
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thomas
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Username: thomas
Post Number: 274
Registered: 07-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 08:31 pm: |
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richarddurgee
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Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 1703
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 12:54 pm: |
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Can't find igniter photo in my stuff !
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thomas
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Username: thomas
Post Number: 275
Registered: 07-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, June 07, 2008 - 09:41 am: |
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Thanks Richard. I tried to reply direct to the email but the NSA showed up at my house.....
ANYWAY. If anybody has a picture of this style igniter I would love a look at it.
Tom |
lenoir
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Username: lenoir
Post Number: 1
Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2008 - 06:43 am: |
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hello everybody
we are new on the forum
we have discover an Eagle engine (see attached pictures) and we are looking for any information or literature for identification
the contructor plete read:
EAGLE NO:622 made by The Eagle Bicycle MFG CO
Torrington conn.USA
Mag and carb seems to de french origin
thanks in advance
jean
Museum de mecanique naturelle
2, rue Blanche Monet
F 27620 GIVERNY France
2 ,rue Blanche Monet |
lenoir
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Username: lenoir
Post Number: 2
Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2008 - 07:02 am: |
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Eagle attached pictures |
lenoir
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Username: lenoir
Post Number: 3
Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2008 - 07:14 am: |
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Eagle attached pictures
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richarddurgee
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Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 1855
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2008 - 04:58 pm: |
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The Eagle Bicycle Co. mfgrd engines from 1901-1906.
This catalog picture is From the Progessive mfging Co. that took over in late 1906 and made these engines until 1909.
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lenoir
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Username: lenoir
Post Number: 4
Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, October 30, 2008 - 11:59 am: |
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thanks Richard for prompt answers
our engine seems to have a 2 cycles crankcase and a 4 cycle head with automatic intake valve and a push rod actuated exhaust valve
has all that parts are fitted on a very crude manner do we facing a prototype or a experiment
engine ??,
also for the last ; how he end up in France
regards
friendly
jean
museum de mecanique F 27620 Giverny |
ned_l
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Username: ned_l
Post Number: 240
Registered: 08-2012
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 24, 2024 - 09:54 am: |
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I recently picked up a two cylinder Eagle made in Newark, New Jersey The cylinder tops (heads) are separate bolt on. |
