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keith
Senior Member
Username: keith
Post Number: 166
Registered: 02-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2004 - 08:49 pm: | 
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I recently came across a web site for Domestic Flywheel engines, which were mfg. in Shippensburg PA. They are one of the more common sideshaft engines. What I found interesting was a history of the compamy. The article stated that the Domestic Engine Company manufactured the Fisherman Marine engine for the Loane-Hiltz Engineering Co.of Baltimore MD, and that Loane-Hiltz was a sales office. For any one interested in the site it is www.domesticengine.com. I am attaching the comments of Don Kirkpatrick an known authority on Domestic engines. Don has the records from the Domestic Company.
"Loane-Hiltz Engineering Co. of Baltimore was a dealer in Domestic engines - Domestic SN 692, a 1 1/2hp, 4in bore x 6in stroke ignitor engine, sold by them and bearing their tag, is on display in the Smithsonian Museum of Science and Technology (or at least was when I was last there, about 20 years ago). Loane-Hiltz sold a few other Domestic engines besides the Smithsonian-exhibited one, but their major relationship with Domestic soon became the "Fisherman" 4-stroke marine engine.
Some time in late 1906 or early 1907, Domestic designed and started manufacturing the Fisherman engine, solely for Loane-Hiltz Engineering Co, which handled sales. Engines were often "drop-shipped" direct to buyers from the Domestic plant in Shippensburg, although the agent for the sale was shown in the engine record book as Loane. Some engines I recall were shipped to Alaska, Nova Scotia, various Caribbean ports, and many US ports on the Gulf, West, and East coasts.
There were other named partners, with Loane (besides Hiltz), over the years, as I recall. When the company ended in the 1970's, I believe it was just Loane family interests in ownership. But don't take that as gospel - I have notes on this but not at hand.
Hope this helps.
Don Kirkpatrick, 4 Nov 2004" |
richarddurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 596
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2004 - 11:46 pm: |
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Domestic Eng & Pump Co. Shippensburg, pa.
is listed as a marine eng mfgr, a one cyl 3 Hp ad was in Motor Boat Dec 10 1912 pg 49. Don't have a copy to scan ? interested to see what it looked like ! Interesting info. |
andrew
Moderator
Username: andrew
Post Number: 959
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Friday, November 05, 2004 - 09:06 am: |
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See:
http://www.oldmarineengine.com/discus/messages/1/2382.html
and
http://www.oldmarineengine.com/discus/messages/1/2225.html |
jb_castagnos
Senior Member
Username: jb_castagnos
Post Number: 221
Registered: 07-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 08:16 pm: |
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Thanks Keith, always glad to get history on the engines. When describing the Fisherman to my "farm engine" friends I would tell them it was a vertical engine with a side shaft like a Domestic. If you get a chance Id like to get a measurement from the top of the head to the piston at tdc. That wire you had through the primer at Calvert world be close enough for this. I'm going to have to make a piston and rod over the winter and need to figure how much head space to leave. Thanks, J.B. |
cheryl_cobbpenton
New member
Username: cheryl_cobbpenton
Post Number: 1
Registered: 09-2015
| | Posted on Thursday, October 08, 2015 - 09:26 am: |
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We have recently found an old engine in one of our museums. On the flywheel is says: The Coaker , trade mark 'Fisherman' Engine, no. 18954, Fisherman Baltimore, MD 98-2
Could someone tell me where I can get more information. We would like to restore it for our visitors and would like to know the original colours of the engine. |
richarddurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 3676
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, October 08, 2015 - 02:41 pm: |
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I have some information on Coaker !
Possible to get photos of 4 sides and
the name plate, I can probably date the
engine within a few years ?
Trouble posting photos here, click on my name at left and send them to my email, I'll post them here with what info I have !
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richarddurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 3679
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, October 10, 2015 - 01:11 am: |
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Cheryl emailed and said she was getting the engine
out of the shed to get photos.
Coaker marine engine poem.
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tom
Advanced Member
Username: tom
Post Number: 39
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, October 10, 2015 - 12:39 pm: |
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That pome was put to music a few years ago. Only saw one of them, in Catalina, Newfoundland, in the early '80s. Have accumulated a few make n break and jump spark, but not a Coaker. |
richarddurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 3681
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, October 10, 2015 - 01:10 pm: |
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Sir William Ford Coaker
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Coaker
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richarddurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 3683
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 14, 2015 - 07:28 am: |
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Cheryl's Engine photos
William Coaker in the above post founded The Fisherman's Protective Union, one of his endeavors was to make available marine engines to the members. I am not sure if the Fisherman was the only engine, I read one article that said that Coaker wanted certain changes to the engines and the ( companies ) made these alterations but didn't put their tags on them although the engine in photos has the Fisherman name cast in the flywheel and two side covers ?
Engine has the glass water jacket windows and I believe they date 1915-1916.
Great Find and a Great project !
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richarddurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 3684
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 14, 2015 - 11:35 am: |
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Fisherman 1916
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