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polarcreator
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Posted on Wednesday, November 16, 2016 - 04:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Looking for a piston .30 oversize for 4hp St Lawrence engine company marine engine.Anyone with ideas on where to find one.
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polarcreator
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Posted on Wednesday, November 16, 2016 - 08:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The serial number for this engine is 7816. Only the first leter of the model number is there. X. It has one piece manifold and lever Ignition.
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jb_castagnos
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Posted on Wednesday, November 16, 2016 - 09:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What's the bore on your engine? I have a pattern and core box near completion for the larger engine, I believe it's 3 1/2" bore, it's been a while since I worked on it.
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polarcreator
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Posted on Wednesday, November 16, 2016 - 09:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The bore was 3.252 but the machine shop bored it 30 thousand over. The current bore is 3.282.
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robert
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Posted on Thursday, November 17, 2016 - 01:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sleeving the bore to match the existing piston would be another option perhaps. Or better yet, sleeve to .025 or .050 under standard so that if the piston needs to be replaced in future a standard or even slightly worn piston could be used.
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polarcreator
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Posted on Thursday, November 17, 2016 - 01:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The cost to sleeve the engine would run $450 to $550.00. If I can't find a piston I will be doing that. Making it under might allow me to turn down the existing piston and use it. Thanks for that advice.
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jb_castagnos
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Posted on Thursday, November 17, 2016 - 04:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here's a link to cylinder sleeving, since it's bored I would try to get a piston. Is yours aluminum or cast iron?

http://www.oldmarineengine.com/discus/messages/5/3051.html
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polarcreator
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Posted on Thursday, November 17, 2016 - 07:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My piston is aluminium and has four ring three at top and one down at the bottom.Can't seem to find a custom machining place to make one. Has anyone ever tried finding a larger piston and turning it down to size. Is the piston length crucial.It seem that all pistons the right size are way to short.
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jb_castagnos
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Posted on Thursday, November 17, 2016 - 08:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This is a three port engine, the bottom of the piston times the intake, it is critical. There's a small foundry in Canada that makes pistons, he may take your old piston for a pattern and core, not sure. Someone familiar with his operation may chime in.
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polarcreator
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Posted on Thursday, November 17, 2016 - 06:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Do you have the information on who or what the foundry is called. That would be a great help. Also JB thank you for the sleeving info. That was very enlightening.
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bruce_g
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Posted on Thursday, November 17, 2016 - 10:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Michel
The foundry is Skara Foundry in Mississaga ON
You will need to use the original as a pattern.
They do not do pattern cores at the foundry.
You would need to build the piston up and cut it in half to use it as a pattern unless you know a patternmaker. Bruce
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polarcreator
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Posted on Friday, November 18, 2016 - 09:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thank you for the foundry information but without a pattern piston of the right size it isn't an option.
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jb_castagnos
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Posted on Saturday, November 19, 2016 - 08:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If you don't mind sacrificing you're old piston it can be built up with Bondo, machined, cut in half, used for a core and pattern. This is the easiest way for one or two pistons.

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