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Easthope What to look for ?

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dana
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Username: dana

Post Number: 13
Registered: 05-2012
Posted on Friday, November 21, 2014 - 07:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello,

I know of a Easthope sitting in old Barn, I just don't know what to look for as to problems with it, I don't see many parts avaiable for these engines and I don't want to get in over my head. I will take pictures of it and have someone post, ( can't do that either ) I saw it months ago and from what I can remember it looks all there and is a single cylinder with magneto ( wico ) . I no to look for cracks in head, water jacket, what else should I look for in this engine.

Thanks
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solarrog
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Username: solarrog

Post Number: 583
Registered: 03-2002


Posted on Friday, November 21, 2014 - 08:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

rock the flywheel back and forth, listen for the klunk of loose rod bearing. try to raise and lower the crankshaft looking for loose main bearings
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david_doyle
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Post Number: 26
Registered: 03-2013
Posted on Friday, November 21, 2014 - 09:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A way to carry it out of the barn!
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joe_h
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Username: joe_h

Post Number: 63
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Saturday, November 22, 2014 - 03:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The small single cylinder (4-6hp) is 240 pounds and the larger singles a lot more. If you can get it home there are lots of parts available. Get the serial number or the clutch number. If the brass tag is still on the cylinder it will tell you the HP and the S/N. If not the serial number can often be found on the flywheel next to the Top dead centre by the starting bar hole. Let me know.....Joe
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dana
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Post Number: 14
Registered: 05-2012
Posted on Saturday, November 22, 2014 - 05:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I went to look at the engine between rain storms, I took some pictures and tried to send them to Joe, but no good ! anyway from what I can read on the brass tag, it saids ( 500 D 1803 S ) there is something infront of the 500 that looks like a backwards B and the D might be something else. The head is 16" diameter, flywheel is 20" diameter if that helps.

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david_doyle
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Post Number: 27
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Posted on Saturday, November 22, 2014 - 09:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Careful. Too much looking and it might disapear or worse yet get expensive. IMHO if your interested in old engines and if that one is local, complete and not FUBAR just buy it.
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joe_h
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Post Number: 64
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Sunday, November 23, 2014 - 09:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dana, the records have an engine with serial number D1803. It is a 7-9 HP built in 1930. The original engine had an Atwater Kent single ignition only. Your picture shows a Wico magneto and the pics do not show up the timer which would be behind the cylinder. It is quite possible that the engine was converted to dual ignition at some later point. How many spark plugs 1 or 2? Can you confirm the flywheel width as 5 1/8". The engine weighs 700 Lbs. The exh/intake manifolds are hard to find but yours looks like it could be repaired. If the cylinder and head are ok then you could get it going. I have pistons, rods, and valves and valve springs etc and even an NOS crankshaft.
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ernie
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Username: ernie

Post Number: 1908
Registered: 01-2002


Posted on Monday, December 01, 2014 - 01:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here are Dana's Pics



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dana
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Post Number: 15
Registered: 05-2012
Posted on Monday, December 01, 2014 - 02:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks to Ernie and his picture posting skills, everyone can now see what I found, its not pretty, I was hopping to save this engine but after pulling the head, it doesn't look good. lots of pitting on cylinder wall and rust in the water jacket, it has lots of the good stuff still there, mag, timer, carb and so on. Still thinking what to do with it.
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solarrog
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Username: solarrog

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Posted on Monday, December 01, 2014 - 03:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I would have the cylinder sleeved. How does the water jacket look? its a great looking engine.
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bruce
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Username: bruce

Post Number: 464
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Monday, December 01, 2014 - 09:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

24 hours in an electrolysis bath would do wonders for it's appearence. Looks pretty complete !!
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david_doyle
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Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2014 - 02:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That looks like a very nice find. If you need inspiration for the restoration Do a search for Tad Roberts (boat designer) and see the boats that these are still being put in.
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robert
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Username: robert

Post Number: 651
Registered: 07-2003
Posted on Monday, December 08, 2014 - 01:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What a find! Not many of these left in the wild. Complete right down to the Bemus timer and the EK mag; doesn't get much better than that. If the jacket is not split by now it may be a fresh water engine, in which case you won the lottery: not one in 50 was fresh water cooled. The fact that you were able to take the head off speaks volumes! Pitting in the cylinder bore? JB Weld will take care of that at 600rpm. If you want a new one, you might find one all restored for a few grand. Take off the mag and the timer and get it soda blasted. That will remove all the external crud and corruption and make it much more pleasant to tear down and clean up.

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