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keith_felder
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Username: keith_felder
Post Number: 9
Registered: 06-2012
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 24, 2014 - 09:36 pm: | 
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Lockwood-Ash were big in South Louisiana in logging, hunting and fishing in the first half of the 20th century .I'm trying to set up a engine trailer with Lockwood-Ash engines, manuals, and sales catalogs or anything L-A. Let me know if you have for sale any L-A inboard from 1905 to 1925 from 1-1/2 to 25 H.P. It will go to a good home and seen by a lot of people. Thanks Keith |
richarddurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 3378
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 24, 2014 - 11:20 pm: |
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Looking forward to seeing display as it comes together !
This 1925 LA ad claims "Builders of Marine Engines
for 22 years"
Never sure how accurate ads are but it would put established year back to 1903 ?
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keith_felder
Member
Username: keith_felder
Post Number: 10
Registered: 06-2012
| | Posted on Thursday, September 25, 2014 - 08:57 am: |
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We are off to a good start. We have a few engines and we collect L-A ads also. As you, we use the ads and manuals to date the engines. Thanks for the ads. Keith |
squareroot
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Username: squareroot
Post Number: 18
Registered: 09-2013
| | Posted on Monday, February 02, 2015 - 07:22 pm: |
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My friend, Bill, has a small, incomplete Lockwood-Ash 1-cylinder. Specifically, missing timing mechanism. Can anyone help?
wayne
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primetrucks
Advanced Member
Username: primetrucks
Post Number: 49
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Monday, February 02, 2015 - 09:21 pm: |
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It's a swing / drag timer missing I could get some pictures and maybe help in making a copy of mine on a 2 1/2 hp lock wood ash. |
squareroot
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Username: squareroot
Post Number: 19
Registered: 09-2013
| | Posted on Monday, February 02, 2015 - 09:49 pm: |
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Thank you.
That would be great!
Send pics to Bill Ettling <[email protected]>
We're in southeast Missouri. |
jb_castagnos
Senior Member
Username: jb_castagnos
Post Number: 1007
Registered: 07-2002
| | Posted on Monday, February 02, 2015 - 11:30 pm: |
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That motor won't run with that carburetor. It needs a Lunkenheimer mixer or a check valve with the carb. |
keith_felder
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Username: keith_felder
Post Number: 14
Registered: 06-2012
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 03, 2015 - 09:24 am: |
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2 HP were built from 1905 to 1910. they had a 2 pc body, swing timer, a lunkenheimer, a 1 check pump and a oiler on the heimer. good luck, Keith |
primetrucks
Advanced Member
Username: primetrucks
Post Number: 50
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Friday, February 06, 2015 - 02:13 pm: |
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i my email has been comming back to me. can't email you about the timer.if you would give me a call at 225-268-4191 jamie. |
squareroot
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Username: squareroot
Post Number: 20
Registered: 09-2013
| | Posted on Friday, February 06, 2015 - 09:45 pm: |
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Bill's wife says they have received your phone number, Jamie. But Bill's been ill for several days. I assume he'll call you when he gets back to health. Thanks! wayne |
primetrucks
Senior Member
Username: primetrucks
Post Number: 51
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2015 - 12:16 pm: |
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i sent some close up pictures. i hope that helps if you need some more just let me know. |
squareroot
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Username: squareroot
Post Number: 21
Registered: 09-2013
| | Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2015 - 12:41 pm: |
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Thanks, PrimeTrucks.
I plan to visit Bill today.
Will see if he needs more.
Thanks again.
wayne |
keith_felder
Member
Username: keith_felder
Post Number: 18
Registered: 06-2012
| | Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2015 - 10:52 pm: |
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that engine would look great on my lockwood-ash display trailer. if bill gets tired of playing with it , email me. i hope he enjoyes fixing it up, good luck, keith |
jack
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Username: jack
Post Number: 15
Registered: 09-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, February 15, 2015 - 12:15 am: |
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I have a model 41 LA, found it today while rooting around in my barn where I stashed it a few years ago. Can anyone post a good picture of the intake manifold so I can print it? Mine has a home made job that places the carb pretty high and has an elbow in it. I need to see the real thing.
I got it several years ago on a trade. It runs. The Bosch mag has been replaced with a Wico, and one head bolt has been replaced with a modern cap screw. And of course, the manifold.
If I can make it look right it is to go into a model T Ford collection at the Western Antique Aeroplane and Automobile Museum here in Oregon because it was marketed as using Ford parts--available anywhere as the add says.
Help is always deeply appreciated and I thank you in advance.
Jack |
keith_felder
Member
Username: keith_felder
Post Number: 19
Registered: 06-2012
| | Posted on Sunday, February 15, 2015 - 10:22 am: |
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the 1923 model 41 had a bosch mag if the ser. # was below 1200, if over it used a wico. I'm not good with photo but will try later with parts list. keith |
jack
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Username: jack
Post Number: 16
Registered: 09-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, February 15, 2015 - 04:52 pm: |
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Keith, That's an interesting thing about the number break for the magneto, but mine is model 41, HP 5, No. 594. I'll probably put it on display as is. The Wico fits and works and would be an acceptable upgrade for an engine in service.
The requirement for displays at WAAAM is that they have to work or be in process of rebuild to working condition. Check out WAAAM on Facebook or Google it. I am primarily their volunteer steam engine mechanic.
Thanks,
Jack |
primetrucks
Senior Member
Username: primetrucks
Post Number: 53
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 14, 2015 - 02:55 am: |
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just checking in on the swing timer how its going? |
squareroot
Member
Username: squareroot
Post Number: 22
Registered: 09-2013
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 14, 2015 - 02:12 pm: |
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Hi PrimeTrucks.
Bill talks like he has a design well in mind.
But doesn't seem to be top priority now.
Building a couple pieces of furniture for his wife,
and soon will be putting in his garden I assume.
When I see him this week, I'll try to remember to
take my camera with me.
Wayne |
primetrucks
Senior Member
Username: primetrucks
Post Number: 64
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 09, 2015 - 01:31 pm: |
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HI how is the timer project coming out. if any help is need let me know .thanks jamie |
keith_felder
Advanced Member
Username: keith_felder
Post Number: 31
Registered: 06-2012
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 22, 2015 - 08:09 pm: |
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I am collecting serial numbers of Lockwood Ash marine Inboards engines. i have started a chart and i would like to add your serial numbers to it. If you send a photo of each side, i can help you date your engine. I am going to try to atta ch the chart. |
solarrog
Senior Member
Username: solarrog
Post Number: 612
Registered: 03-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 22, 2015 - 10:22 pm: |
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are you collecting nadler numbers who bought the designs and ept building them for awhile?
I have one out in the shop |
solarrog
Senior Member
Username: solarrog
Post Number: 613
Registered: 03-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 22, 2015 - 10:23 pm: |
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keith_felder
Advanced Member
Username: keith_felder
Post Number: 32
Registered: 06-2012
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 23, 2015 - 07:34 am: |
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I am collecting Lockwood-ash, Motorgo and Nadler s/n. The Motorgo's appear to be falling into the Lockwood numbers. the Nadler's are 20 years later. |
richarddurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 3739
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 23, 2015 - 08:33 am: |
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Keith
This is a file photo about 15 yrs ago when I brought this one home, The cylinder is on backwards!
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keith_felder
Advanced Member
Username: keith_felder
Post Number: 33
Registered: 06-2012
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 23, 2015 - 11:57 am: |
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Thanks Richard, I think your engine is a 1911. L-A made 2 1/2 hp, type A in 1911 and 1912. 1910 was a 2 HP Type A and 1913 was 2 1/2 HP Model 2 1/2. |
keith_felder
Advanced Member
Username: keith_felder
Post Number: 34
Registered: 06-2012
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 23, 2015 - 09:07 pm: |
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I am attempting to post the chart of Lockwood Ash Serial Numbers again.
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dick_briggs
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Username: dick_briggs
Post Number: 11
Registered: 02-2015
| | Posted on Thursday, December 24, 2015 - 04:28 pm: |
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Here are two more for your registry:
Thanks. |
keith_felder
Advanced Member
Username: keith_felder
Post Number: 35
Registered: 06-2012
| | Posted on Friday, December 25, 2015 - 06:11 am: |
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Hi dick, I think your 1-1/2 hp is 1913 and your 6 hp is1917. thanks for sharing and taking part in this registry. |
dick_briggs
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Username: dick_briggs
Post Number: 12
Registered: 02-2015
| | Posted on Friday, December 25, 2015 - 07:23 pm: |
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Thank you Keith. That's good to know. |
keith_felder
Advanced Member
Username: keith_felder
Post Number: 37
Registered: 06-2012
| | Posted on Sunday, January 31, 2016 - 11:00 am: |
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I am still interested in collecting serial numbers from Lockwood Ash, Motorgo, and Nadler marine engines. I still need manuals. I will buy the ones you have or a copy or a copy of a copy. There was a big change in engines from 1910 to 1912. They had, in that time period, 1 -2 - 3 and 4 cylinder engines. Any help is greatly appreciated. |
jb_castagnos
Senior Member
Username: jb_castagnos
Post Number: 1138
Registered: 07-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, January 31, 2016 - 07:51 pm: |
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Keith is putting a lot of time in his L-A research, if you have an engine he can help date it by features. |
Max Sparkes
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| | Posted on Tuesday, February 02, 2016 - 12:17 pm: |
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Hoping to get some info as to age of my L.A. engines, The 4 H.P. has an Oval tag which reads
( 4 H.P No. 4-1984 ). The 2 1/2 H.P. has a rectangular tag which reads
( Model 24 H.P. No. 21453 ) Have been trying to upload photo but not having much but will try again |
keith_felder
Advanced Member
Username: keith_felder
Post Number: 38
Registered: 06-2012
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 02, 2016 - 08:48 pm: |
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thanks for the photo max.I do better with photos of the inlet side so I can see the water pump w/strap, block flanges, timer and timer pad, gear cover primer cup,inlet check and so on. both of your engines are from 1917 to 1920. thats when they had model 24, schebler, screw exhaust, the inlet valve stem comes out of the ell and t-timers. Thanks, Keith |
rbprice
Senior Member
Username: rbprice
Post Number: 542
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 03, 2016 - 02:36 pm: |
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Keith - is there anything left in the Nadler foundry that you could get to add to your display? |
Max Sparkes
Visitor
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 03, 2016 - 04:34 pm: |
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Thanks for the approximate age of engines. I am going to try my luck again at sending the side view photos.
By the way the engines are located in Newfoundland Canada |
keith_felder
Advanced Member
Username: keith_felder
Post Number: 39
Registered: 06-2012
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 03, 2016 - 08:27 pm: |
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Max, I think the 4 hp is a 1917. The thing i don't know is the flywheel size, 14" or 13 1/2" and can you see the valve stem on the intake ell. I think the 2 1/2" is 1916, again the flywheel, 11 1/2" or 12 1/4" and is the valve coming through. Thanks for showing your engines,Keith |
keith_felder
Advanced Member
Username: keith_felder
Post Number: 40
Registered: 06-2012
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 03, 2016 - 08:34 pm: |
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Hi Bob, Nadler took their buildings down and gave the land to the city for a park about 6 or 7 years ago. I was not there but some in our club did get some treasures. Later Keith |
Max Sparkes
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| | Posted on Saturday, February 06, 2016 - 07:24 am: |
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Thanks Keith for the info so far. I am going to bother you once more. I am not familiar with the term intake ell but I assume that it is the air intake into the carburetor, if so, the tips of the adjusting screws can be clearly seen protruding through the spring loaded valve. As for the diameter of the flywheels, the 4 H.P. has a diameter of 13 1/2 inches and the 2 1/2 H.P. has a diameter of what appears to me to be closer to 11 3/4 than 11 1/2 inches. Thanks again. |
keith_felder
Advanced Member
Username: keith_felder
Post Number: 41
Registered: 06-2012
| | Posted on Saturday, February 06, 2016 - 06:30 pm: |
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Max, on the engine behind the carburetor is a large nut,that is the intake. Under that nut is a valve with the stem down, on some models it goes through the ell so you can move it with your finger. Some times they get stuck. Some valves are up and some are down and some are blind and don't go through the metal. It helps to date them. Later, Keith |
Max Sparkes
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| | Posted on Sunday, February 07, 2016 - 01:54 pm: |
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Thanks again, I feel that I have become quite a bother but you do keep replying and requesting more info. On my engines the valve assemblies are identical except for size. The valve stems do protrude through the housing and can be manipulated externally with a finger. Once again I am going to try to attach photo. Thank you in advance Max
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keith_felder
Advanced Member
Username: keith_felder
Post Number: 42
Registered: 06-2012
| | Posted on Monday, February 08, 2016 - 09:25 am: |
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thanks Max, take the paint off of the stem and put some oil,Later. |
robert
Senior Member
Username: robert
Post Number: 690
Registered: 07-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2016 - 04:12 pm: |
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Is the prop on the left in that photo made by Bryant & Berry? It looks identical to one I have. |
Max Sparkes
Visitor
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2016 - 10:47 am: |
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The prop on the left is stamped B and B Detroit Mich. 14 D. The one on the right is stamped B and B. Detroit Mich. 12 D 17 P.
Max |
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