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richarddurgee
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Username: richarddurgee

Post Number: 3347
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Wednesday, July 23, 2014 - 02:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Old Barber twin ca(1905-07)I bought at a central
Florida antique flea market about 20yrs ago.
Barbers were 3 port engines and it caught my eye that this one had been converted to two port ?

B1

B2

B3

B4

Removing the head revealed piston with two deflectors ?

B5

Very small pistons 3 inch diameter, also found
the rear cylinder was missing the small deflector

B6

B7

All The rings on both pistons were broken !

Cylinders are in very good condition considering the obvious hard life they endured .

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gregoryan
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Username: gregoryan

Post Number: 117
Registered: 09-2004


Posted on Wednesday, July 23, 2014 - 09:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Great looking engine! Do the cylinder heads have any cooling/ waterjacketing?/ or it just dissipates the heat through the mating surface?
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jb_castagnos
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Username: jb_castagnos

Post Number: 939
Registered: 07-2002


Posted on Wednesday, July 23, 2014 - 10:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Richard, looks like the deflector is on the exhaust side, don't know why they put it, don't think you'll miss it.
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richarddurgee
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Username: richarddurgee

Post Number: 3348
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2014 - 10:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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These (Hot Heads) are solid iron no water to them,
very common on early turn of the century engines,
Kerosene engines also used them to keep upper cylinder hotter to ignite fuel mixture !


J.B. I have wondered what the Barber Bros had in mind when they designed these pistons, they were one of the earliest mfgrs to use the three port system ?
I have also never found any reference to a Barber engine with this small of a piston ?

Any one seen other pistons with dual deflectors ?


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keith
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Username: keith

Post Number: 424
Registered: 02-2002


Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2014 - 12:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Paul Gray restored a similar Barber that he displayed at 2003 Calvert.
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richarddurgee
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Username: richarddurgee

Post Number: 3349
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2014 - 03:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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What I could find on file !

This was a larger bore than the above engine.

Maybe Paul will remember about the deflector ?


B

bpg


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