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searcher
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Post Number: 533
Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Friday, June 15, 2012 - 03:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here is an interesting marine engine that just came up on eBay. Item number 150836836248
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richarddurgee
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Post Number: 2858
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Saturday, June 16, 2012 - 12:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Cool old engine
Screw in crankshaft bearing flanges ?
Don't recall seeing that before ??

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ernie
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Post Number: 1506
Registered: 01-2002


Posted on Saturday, June 16, 2012 - 12:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here are the pics from Ebay








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jim_parrott
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Post Number: 47
Registered: 06-2009
Posted on Friday, June 22, 2012 - 02:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Can anyone identify this engine or know anything about its history?

Jim
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robert
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Post Number: 483
Registered: 07-2003
Posted on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 - 09:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Remarkable very early engine, perhaps a machine shop one-off judging from the shop-made grease cups?

The ignitor has that same one-off or very early production look.

Looks like the end covers screw into the crankcase!

The second eccentric for the ignitor is on a strange angle indeed. Almost makes you wonder if the M&B ignition was a later modification.
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billschaller
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Post Number: 530
Registered: 12-2003


Posted on Wednesday, June 27, 2012 - 05:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I would like to have seen what he started with, before the restoration.
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jim_parrott
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Post Number: 49
Registered: 06-2009
Posted on Thursday, June 28, 2012 - 10:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The ignitor linkage angle is strange but may be exaggerated by the photo angle and offset of the sliding mechanism from center line. The water pump could possibly be tweaked forward a little bit helping correct this angle as well.

Any thoughts on the proper fuel mixer for this engine?

Jim
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jim_parrott
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Post Number: 70
Registered: 06-2009
Posted on Sunday, December 07, 2014 - 05:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ernie identified this engine as a Kowalsky while I was at Mystic in August. Identifying features would be pedestal mount, rear exhaust, flywheel, clamp on water pump, strap, and water inlet pipe. All designs similar or identical to the Kowalsky in this thread.

http://www.oldmarineengine.com/discus/messages/3454/118526.html

I did find some other kowalsky's with the same characteristics, but no luck finding any literature for this model. Looking to duplicate the original igniter and find literature to confirm the engines origin. Any thoughts and help would be appreciated.

Jim
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richarddurgee
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Post Number: 3443
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Monday, January 05, 2015 - 10:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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I had not been able to put a name on this engine, the Kowalski engines similar to this one
(He made several different designed engines) all had a vertical split crankcase. Last night I found this 1904-05 ad that calls it a Kowalsky Simplex


ksim


This engine has the design features of the above engine !

Ernie named it - Claims his eyes aren't so good anymore They saw this one !! GOOD STUFF




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richarddurgee
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Post Number: 3444
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Posted on Monday, January 05, 2015 - 11:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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John Kowalsky History


http://www.veronahistory.org/john-kowalsky.html


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jim_parrott
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Post Number: 71
Registered: 06-2009
Posted on Wednesday, January 07, 2015 - 06:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Richard,

That is awesome, you found the needle in the haystack again.
I spent days searching John Kowalsky and his engines but never found the Simplex. Any search techniques you want to share so we can help reduce your work load?

Jim
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richarddurgee
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Post Number: 3447
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Wednesday, January 07, 2015 - 07:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Jim
That's at least two of us that's thrilled about finding this photo ad !I have been searching three years for this evidence !
I believe that this engine in above photos is the earliest Of the Kowalsky designs and was from 1902-1905.

By 1906 the address and officers of the company changed and this design was on the market.
This is Bob Legnon's nicely redone 1906 design.

K06

Southern Louisiana maybe cornering the Kowalsky
engine line ??

From a lot of years researching 1906 was a critical year in the marine engine industry, photo ads became common and many technical changes took place, searching 1905 and back is still difficult at times especially of the companies that didn't advertise or did so very rarely, they were a bit obscure even in their day !
The engine above in my opinion is an outstanding
example of an Old Marine Engine, the Designer and machinist John Kowalsky was a very talented and ingenious man and rates right up there with the best at the turn of the century !

Good Stuff

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jim_parrott
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Post Number: 72
Registered: 06-2009
Posted on Thursday, January 08, 2015 - 07:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Now that we have this engine identified, I need to make it look like the picture in the ad.

I currently have a Monarch mixer on it with a throttle control, but maybe a Essex might be more appropriate. Any other thoughts of what mixer might be in the ad picture?

The igniter and linkage appears to have been fabricated by a previous owner. It is fantastic workmanship but can not be retarded at all and looks very different from the picture. Hoping to find a similar ignition to copy or will just create my own. An adjustable igniter would be desirable or was fixed timing common on these early engines?

Jim
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richarddurgee
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Post Number: 3450
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Friday, January 09, 2015 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Essex

1905 Hartford


h05


1905 ad


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jim_parrott
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Post Number: 73
Registered: 06-2009
Posted on Monday, January 12, 2015 - 09:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Looks like a one inch Essex Generator Valve would be a perfect match. Let the search begin.
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richarddurgee
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Post Number: 3454
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Monday, January 12, 2015 - 12:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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I've been looking about 20 years for this Generator Valve for a 1906 Sterling Engine ?


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jim_parrott
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Post Number: 74
Registered: 06-2009
Posted on Monday, January 12, 2015 - 02:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Richard,

Just a few weeks back there was an Essex just like I need on eBay, but didn't bid on it because I didn't know I needed it at the time. There was only one other bidder. I'll keep an eye out for your carburetor.

Jim

Jim
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miro
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Post Number: 785
Registered: 11-2001


Posted on Friday, January 16, 2015 - 03:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

In Richard Durgee's post with the picture of the 2 cylinder engine, the ad is from Gray and Prior, of Hartford, Conn.

The Gray and Prior company was the company that manufactured the flexible joint in the DisPro device that let the prop come up into the housing and best of all it is still alive today

And if you need a new flex joint , they still manufacture them.

This year, 1915, is the 100th anniversary of the patent date on the DisPro device.

miro
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bruce
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Post Number: 474
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Friday, January 16, 2015 - 08:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Richard, My mistake on the Generator valve you require for your Sterling as the generator on my Fay Bowen engine does not have the float chamber. My version is shown on page 200 in Stan Grayson's volume number three affixed to the pictured Fay Bowen engine.

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