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axtion_jim
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Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2011 - 01:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have two of the single cyl. Fairbanks engines in need of a little TLC. After doing a search on this site I am amazed on what little info is listed on such a large supplier of these engines. One engine is probably a 5 hp. with a igniter and the other 1 1/2 ? with a timer gear on the crank. I also have a parts 1 1/2 engine that has peanut oil in the cyl to try and free the piston.The 5 hp. has some salt cracks and the piston is stuck in the block, not a real problem.I have I beleave most of the parts for 5HP.ie, shebler carb,ingniter,pump and assorted hardware linkage for the pump and the ingniter. The only item that is a problem is what is the little brass leaver that is attached to the block that secures the push rod for the igniter for.It has a half a gear machined on the back side of the round mounting, and what is missing.Any help wood be appreicated.
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oldenginebob
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Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2011 - 02:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

go to harry's old engine page for information,hitnmiss enterprises for parts
BOB
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keith
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Post Number: 335
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Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2011 - 04:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

BOB and Jim.
I think Jim's engines are marine. I doubt that hitnmiss carries parts. Are the engines Fairbanks Company or Fairbanks Morse? As common as Fairbanks Morse farm or stationary engines are, their marine engines are relatively scarce. And an ignitor engine, even more so. Hopefully someone on this site can produce a picture of the trip parts.
Keith
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axtion_jim
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Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2011 - 05:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Keith & Bob
Thanks, but I do know all about Harry`s & the other guy`s, Harry`s has a few posting on the marine, but nothing on the type engine that I`m working on.
Just for the record the serial number is C15017 and I believe that was brought to western Canada from our east coast, PEI or Nova Scotia.
The fellow that owned told the peaple in Kellown,B.C. that I should have it before he pasted away.I feel it fiting that I should give it my best to see that it will run a least one more time.
Thanks for the reply
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keith
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Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2011 - 05:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jim,
I have seen more Canadian Fairbanks Morse than the US versions.
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jb_castagnos
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Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2011 - 07:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This is a picture from the Calvert show, Dickie Gibbens Canadian Fairbanks. If it's what you need I can get more pictures.
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axtion_jim
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Posted on Wednesday, October 19, 2011 - 12:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

jb
That is the engine, I believe it to be a model M. I would like to find out what the little lever attached to the block on the top with the gear teeth that is theaded through the block to a pointed affair on the bottom side, The lever it`s self is threaded and is held fast with a nut.
In any case I droped the whole assembly on the concrete floor and brook a portion of the lever side that the handel is attached to, no damage to the lever.
I think that it is part of the timing, but what are the teeth for?
A few more photos would be great,to your conveniance sir. Cheers Jim
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billschaller
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Posted on Wednesday, October 19, 2011 - 10:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

J.B.

Can you send me some photos of that FM? Someday I will get around to working on this Canadian FM, and it needs some help. Thanks, Bill

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axtion_jim
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Posted on Wednesday, October 19, 2011 - 02:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bill,
I took a look at the 2007 Calvert photos, there is a couple of engines on a trailer that are the same as the one I have.
I really need to have someone explane the perpose of the brass leaver with a half gear machined on one side.
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jb_castagnos
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Posted on Wednesday, October 19, 2011 - 08:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It will be at least a week or so before I can get down to Dickies, Jim Parrott may see this and join in, he's closer. The lever sounds like timing control.
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axtion_jim
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Posted on Wednesday, October 19, 2011 - 11:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

jb,
No rush on the details,this engine will take up a lot of time this comming winter.Just an other thought acurred to me that the notches that appear to be ahalf gear, may be an indicater of a sort. These old engines sure give the old head bone a work out sometimes.
I want to post a few photos, but my camera is at 820kb and the site only allows 150kb. I may have to send my photos to my home system to see what I can do with them.
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axtion_jim
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Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 12:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I found the remains of what appears to be a hole in the block that is in line with the lever,my guess is now a type of prowel to index the lever to push out the push rod for the igniter to alter the stoke and change the timing.
I`ll find out more when I run the engine, and that will be the other story.
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jim_parrott
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Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 - 03:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jim and Bill,

I will get some pics of Dicks FM engine and post within the next week.

Jim
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jim_parrott
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Posted on Saturday, October 29, 2011 - 06:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jim,
I took some pics of Dick's engine today. Sounds like you figured out the timer lever already. Hope these pics help if you need more let me know.
Jim





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jb_castagnos
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Posted on Saturday, October 29, 2011 - 09:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Jim.
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axtion_jim
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Posted on Saturday, October 29, 2011 - 11:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Jim for posting the photos. The knob on the bottom of the threaded piece that go`s through the clamp bracket is what I broke on mine trying to worry it out. From the photos I can see that I will have to make a new one as mine will be to short.
I managed to press the piston out of the cylinder, fifty ton later and heat. And the size of the piston is amazing,it must weigh in at 20 lbs. Must have been murder on the through bearing, mine is missing so I can`t tell. This engine must have been a bear to start as the piston was facing the wrong way, with the fuel dam on the back side of the cylinder.
Well gents the story will continue.
Jim
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jim_parrott
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Posted on Sunday, October 30, 2011 - 06:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jim,

All the time and effort you put into your Fairbanks will be well worth it. Dicks engine starts, runs, and reverses like a dream. Please post some pics of your 5 and 1 1/2's when you get a chance.

Jim
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billschaller
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Posted on Sunday, October 30, 2011 - 08:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thank you, Jim.
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jim_parrott
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Posted on Sunday, October 30, 2011 - 10:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Your welcome,

If you guys need more pics, let me know what you need. I have more but was having trouble with the OME resizer. I found another resizer that I will try next time.

Jim
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john_archibald
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Posted on Sunday, October 30, 2011 - 11:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Image Re-sizing:

I've seen a lot of posts here with complaints regarding having to re-size images before posting them. Fine and dandy, but there is a free image viewing program that I have been using for over 10 years that makes this a snap.

When you get a chance download Irfanview. Use Google to find it on the web. It's a freebie and works very well. Opens darn near any image or video file.

In Irfanview you just bring up your image, click on the Image box in the top tool bar menu, then click on Re-Size / Re-Sample. Pick the size you want from a list and then save it ( Save As ) with a slightly different filename ( I add "RS" to the end of the filename which tells me that it has been Re-Sized ) and you are done. Ten seconds tops.

You will be much impressed by this Re-Sizing function and others in Irfanview. Works for the PC. Don't know about Macs.

Archibald
Northfield, Minnesota
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jim_parrott
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Posted on Sunday, October 30, 2011 - 03:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

John,

Downloaded Free Picture Resize Starter 4.5, very easy to use. Found Microsoft Picture It 10 already installed on my computer also easy to use. Will keep Irfanview in mind if needed. I too add R after resizing to identify pics.

Jim
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axtion_jim
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Posted on Monday, October 31, 2011 - 03:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

John,

I can`t seem to find the "Fee" version of Irfanview, they all seem to want a piece of my plastic moola.
Unless I can figure out how to downsize my photos to fit this site they will have to stay home. This the only site that gives me the problem of having to size the imeges.
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robert
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Posted on Thursday, November 03, 2011 - 11:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Interesting. I had one of these. Still know where it is. Have a couple of those Lavigne two feed oilers that probably came from them.

Mine had a horizontal water cooled muffler, what was left of it.
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robert
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Posted on Thursday, November 03, 2011 - 11:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And here are the photos I was trying to add.

FM1

FM2
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axtion_jim
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Posted on Friday, November 04, 2011 - 12:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Robert,
The flywheel appears to be differant from the one I have as your has what looks like the remains of a crank handel on the face rim.
My block has the same salt break out on the flywheel side but I have all of the pieces to put it back together.
Not to get side tracked, did you make it to the mainland this past summer.
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robert
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Posted on Friday, November 04, 2011 - 02:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jim, I did not, I'm afraid.

As for photo resizing, download FastStone Photo Resizer. Never had any problems with it, and it's easy to use.
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steam38guy
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Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2018 - 11:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Do you still have this engine? If so would be possible to get some dimensions? (I have an american Type G that looks to use similar manifolds and flywheel that I'm looking to make 3D printed patterns for (I've given up hope on finding original stock parts.

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