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richarddurgee
| Posted on Friday, July 18, 2003 - 06:40 pm: |
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Kinda quiet here so I thought i'd ask a technical question ! > Would an Acorn carburetor be appropriate for this engine ??? 1908 |
Ernie
| Posted on Friday, July 18, 2003 - 09:20 pm: |
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Depends if it is mounted on a boat with an oak transom. |
captainbill
| Posted on Friday, July 18, 2003 - 09:27 pm: |
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You're both nuts!! |
Richard Day
| Posted on Saturday, July 19, 2003 - 09:37 am: |
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I think if the engine and carburetor are in the same age group who knows what the supplier really put on the engine for the original seller. A few like Ferro are unique and I doubt Ferro used other carburetors when they went out the door. So many users tried different carburetors trying to get better milage and speed there isn't a lot to go on unless perhaps your latest aquisition is still in the factory crate!! This page has been too quiet lately. |
richarddurgee
| Posted on Saturday, July 19, 2003 - 10:36 am: |
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I,ve been searching for the earliest gas marine eng ad I can find. This is a Nov 1897 ad. Note the street address on this ad and the one above ! different states though ?? |
Ernie
| Posted on Saturday, July 19, 2003 - 07:09 pm: |
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Richard, You still have us in the "NUT" catagory. Notice the address hehehehe Ernie |
richarddurgee
| Posted on Saturday, July 19, 2003 - 08:46 pm: |
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This discussion just brought to mind back in 1950's Bob Hope and Marilyn Monroe were on stage together and bob asked how she was, she replied a little cold, so Bob said well put your hand in my pocket, which she did and a bit embarassed she looked at him and sheepishly said " I feel a little crazy", Bob with his quick ad-lib and a rogue look replied reach a little further down and you will really feel NUTS. |
Richard Day
| Posted on Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 08:13 am: |
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Must be a slow work week in Florida !! I am disapointed we have not had much activity from our friends down under. I hope they all have not given up on antique marine matters. May be a phase of the moon or some exotic spell they go through when the winter comes. Will be good to have them back when the season warms up. |
rbprice
| Posted on Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 10:06 am: |
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Do you suppose that the 1897 Otto marine engine had a slide block, open flame ignition system as in the original Otto engine? That could be really dicy down in the center of a wooden boat. Richard can you blow up the top of engine so we can see some additional detail? And the Aussies I communicate with about the rebuilding of my P-55M are still active. |
richarddurgee
| Posted on Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 11:15 am: |
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Dick , The summer heat here is partially responsible ?? > R.B. Upper part of 1897 OTTO eng ad,looks to have a flyball governor. this is as clear as I could get it !! |
Bill Schaller
| Posted on Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 04:35 pm: |
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I don't think it would have an open flame ignition. I have seen at least 50 Otto engines in the last few years, and only two had open flame ignition. if they figured out how to make a stationary without the open flame, I am sure they did on the marine engines, too. I am betting on an ignitor. |
Bill Schaller
| Posted on Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 04:36 pm: |
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Ernie
| Posted on Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 07:15 pm: |
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Otto? Hummmmmm good name for a dog...... Now how about a nice hit and miss marine engine? The last ride I had in a boat with a ZR-1 in it you got wip lash at slow idle. Just imagine when the govenor unlatched on a "hit and miss" and it fired at full throttle. Just make sure it was a verticle engine. A horizontal would push it sideways a foot or two just from the inertia. Geesh it really would need an oak transom! And sides too! Yup an acorn carb is a good idea on the Walnut! |
Ernie
| Posted on Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 07:18 pm: |
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OK I will try again... Whats bringing who to Mystic? Planning on my family of Palmers here. ZR-1, B, Q-1, YT-1, BH and PW-27 |
rbprice
| Posted on Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 08:13 pm: |
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OK - no slide valves but a bevel gear driven shaft with two rocker arms for the exhaust valves and two spring loaded intake valves and the flyball governor at the top of the take-off shaft. Ernie does a flyball governor dictate hit & miss? Could it have been a jump spark arrangement? Then you wouldn't get tossed overboard when it fired. :o) |
Ernie
| Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 08:04 am: |
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Bob, No a "flyball" govenor does not make it a hit and miss. It's what the govenor is hooked to that makes it what it is. If it is hooked to a throttle then it's throttle governed (spelling?) If it is hooked to some linkage to control speed via spark or holding a valve open and the engine is running with no throttle then it is "hit and miss" Hope this helps E |