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richarddurgee
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Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 2370
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2010 - 09:35 am: | 
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ernie
Senior Member
Username: ernie
Post Number: 1184
Registered: 01-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2010 - 01:18 pm: |
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OK 1916 what?
It's a Mianus |
richarddurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 2371
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2010 - 02:09 pm: |
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ernie
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Username: ernie
Post Number: 1185
Registered: 01-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2010 - 02:39 pm: |
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Neat! |
searcher
Senior Member
Username: searcher
Post Number: 422
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2010 - 01:25 am: |
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I think the cover photo may be of a Mianus that is much earlier than the date of the magazine.
The following is a bit of quick research regarding the dating of Mianus engines. It may not hold water once others more experienced than I am weigh in.
The following four ads seem to represent the style changes over time. I do not have enough Mianus serial numbers to layout a useful range but serial numbers for the 1907-1911 series range very roughly from about 9,000 to 15,000.
The Rudder, April 1905 - Represents the style made up to c.1907, no manifold, round ignitor
Power Boating, August 1909 - Represents the style made from c.1907 to c.1911, manifold on port side, oblong ignitor
The Rudder, December 1912 - Represents the style made from c.1911 to c.1919 and beyond, manifold on starboard side, oblong ignitor
MotorBoat, May 1919 - Indicates the c.1911 style, with the manifold on the starboard side, was still in production in 1919
If the above holds true, the Mianus in that photo dates between c.1907 and c. 1911.
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ernie
Senior Member
Username: ernie
Post Number: 1186
Registered: 01-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2010 - 08:03 am: |
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Nice history
From your reasearch the engine on the cover existed in 1916. As I see it the cover pic is just that a cover pic. I don't get your question.
Also remember as Dick Day has well documented about Palmer and I would suspect most if not all mfrs used pics of engines in ads and actual engines for display at boat shows etc that were NOT accurate. All of this line art way back then was very time consuming and not our world of click the camera and print it. Also most likely most of the consumers were a whole lot less interested in the things we look at for historical purposes. They most likely didn't care as long as it worked.
Just my thoughts
Ernie |
searcher
Senior Member
Username: searcher
Post Number: 423
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2010 - 08:58 am: |
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It wasn't a question, merely an attempt to make sure there was no misinterpretation regarding the cover photo. At first glance, most people would probably assume the date of the engine is consistent with the 1916 date of the magazine. It is hard enough as it is for most of us to assign dates to this old iron so I hate to let a possible misconception slip by. Now, Richard Durgee is apt to come up with something that blows the head gasket right out of my theory as to Mianus dating. Terrific, I hope he does, we will all be better informed because of it. |
searcher
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Username: searcher
Post Number: 424
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2010 - 09:15 am: |
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Ernie,
I just reread my posts. You are right, I was totally off thinking about something else. I put my dating scheme together just short of 2AM this morning after viewing that post and didn't see port from starboard. The engine in the photo is consistant with the date of the magazine. However, my dating scheme does seem to work.
Maybe I shouldn't read and write stuff so late. I visited Bob Price in New York yesterday and drove across that state and Massachusetts arriving home at 11:45 in the evening. Punch drunk I guess. |
ernie
Senior Member
Username: ernie
Post Number: 1187
Registered: 01-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2010 - 10:27 am: |
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I was sound asleep at 2 am
Did you bring anything home from Bob's place? |
rbprice
Senior Member
Username: rbprice
Post Number: 306
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, April 18, 2010 - 10:49 am: |
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It was a prisoner exchange Ernie. Hugh had my newly acquired Universal Fisherman that had been in the rear seating area of his pickup truck since last Xmas and I had a 4 cylinder Universal stationary pump engine that I acquired at Thanksgiving last. Hugh wanted the governor for his restored Universal pump engine. |
