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richarddurgee
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Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 2128
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Friday, July 17, 2009 - 05:25 pm: | 
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New England Mfgrs " Bridgeport"
1903
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jb_castagnos
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Username: jb_castagnos
Post Number: 457
Registered: 07-2002
| | Posted on Friday, July 17, 2009 - 07:42 pm: |
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I wonder if any of my motors "mote", does anyone know how to tell? Richard, I don't have your new cell#, if you have time give me a call.
Thanks, J.B. |
richarddurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 2130
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, July 18, 2009 - 03:59 pm: |
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And that's what makes J.B. so Special his straight out mechanical inquisitiveness "I wonder if any of my motors "mote" ? since seeing this ad several yrs ago I ( assumed that to mote was like to motor or run or rotate like a motor) not exactly so !
Mote comes from a very old english word "Motan" it was used by the 1300's English author and poet Chaucer as "So mote it be", later english translation "So May it be". with newer translations and a bit of germanic infusion it tends to mean "it can" or "has the power to" that would seem to allude to the Known potential of the object to do what it is claimed or designed to do ? In this case The Bridgeport Marine Engine "can" or "has the power to" propell your boat with the qualities claimed !
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ernie
Senior Member
Username: ernie
Post Number: 996
Registered: 01-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, July 18, 2009 - 04:10 pm: |
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"mote mote mote your boat"
sure beats rowing... |
richarddurgee
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Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 2131
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, July 18, 2009 - 04:48 pm: |
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By the definition above if you got down the water way with this one without using oars -You'd have to say it "MOTES"
1904
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axtion_jim
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Username: axtion_jim
Post Number: 15
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Monday, July 20, 2009 - 03:03 pm: |
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Calvert 2006 photo 3A # 73,The engine on the left side would that be a Evinrude inboard. If so I to have one. Please advise.
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richarddurgee
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Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 2133
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 21, 2009 - 09:58 am: |
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Calvert 2006 photo 3A # 73
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axtion_jim
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Username: axtion_jim
Post Number: 16
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 21, 2009 - 11:48 am: |
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Good morning Richard, Yes that is the photo.The engine on the left side, is it a vertical Evenrude two cycle. the photo is not that clear.I picked up a Evinrude at a vintage car swap meet this past spring. It dose run but is missing the muffler. I expect that it maybe some what on the rare side, or at least not a serviver, as the only means of cooling it is go fast to produce air flow through the fins. I have done some research but found nothing.Can you help.
Jim |
richarddurgee
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Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 2134
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 21, 2009 - 12:26 pm: |
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Possible to post some Photos ? or email to me and I'll post them !
Finned cylinder cooling - it won't be an Evinrude inboard ?
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frank_petran
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Username: frank_petran
Post Number: 53
Registered: 05-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 21, 2009 - 02:11 pm: |
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Back last year at an outboard motor show and swap meet I saw a Evinrude air cooled motor, prop shaft and prop. If I happen to run into Dennis Evinrude (Grandson) at this years swap meet I'll ask him about this. Also look to see if the guy brought that motor to the swap meet. |
solarrog
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Username: solarrog
Post Number: 362
Registered: 03-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 21, 2009 - 02:42 pm: |
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i HAVE QUITE A COLLECTION OF EARLY EVINRUDE MOTORS BOTH INBOARD AND OUTBOARD AND HAVE NEVER SEEN A AIRCOOLED ONE sorry about the caps
maybe Lauson, eska, kissel waterwitch????
or some experimential never heard of motor
things keep turning up. |
axtion_jim
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Username: axtion_jim
Post Number: 17
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 21, 2009 - 09:20 pm: |
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Sorry I`m having a real problem attaching the photos. For some reason my photos are to large to send, and I have sized to the smallest possable.I will try an other system tonight if time will allow. |
richarddurgee
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Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 2135
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 21, 2009 - 09:23 pm: |
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* Email them to me I'll post them !
[email protected]
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richarddurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 2136
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 01:08 am: |
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Jim's Photos
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solarrog
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Username: solarrog
Post Number: 363
Registered: 03-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 01:25 am: |
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The block, & ign system look Evinrude
The cylinder does not. The mixer shown was used on the rowboat motors, but I have never seen it on a inboard motor. The cylinder color not matching the rest, brings questons to mind. In any event its very interesting, and thanks for forwarding and posting the pictures
if it ever comes on the market let me know |
keith
Senior Member
Username: keith
Post Number: 258
Registered: 02-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 10:55 am: |
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Jim,
Contact "B. J. Pawlaczyk"
He has the finest Row Boat Motor collection in the country and a lot of knowledge. Looks like you found an extreamly valuable motor. |
axtion_jim
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Username: axtion_jim
Post Number: 18
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 11:15 am: |
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A big thank you to you Richard for posting the photos. Roger the color on the crank case is the same as the old Evirude out board engines. As to the jug being a differant color. I ran the engine briefly and heats up real quick as there is no means to cool (ie) fan or? I`ll likely hang on to it for a bit longer until I find out some more of its history. I purchased this engine from a fellow that comes to Abbotsford in the spring from Washington state to sell at a vintage car swap meet. After he sold me the engine he was not pleased with himself for selling it when I told him that it was a Evinrude. And thats an other story. |
solarrog
Senior Member
Username: solarrog
Post Number: 364
Registered: 03-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 12:48 pm: |
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This could be a experimental motor they built but never put in production. Motors like that turn upnow and then. I believe Evinrude came out with the flywheel magneto in 1913 so this would fall then or after. The rowboat motors were sold into 1920s using this mixer. |
axtion_jim
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Username: axtion_jim
Post Number: 19
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 08:52 pm: |
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The only piece that is damaged is the tab on top of the mixer. Other then that is has great compression. It didn`t look like the photos when I got it. I spent about 8 hours cleaning, trying to save the pateena but still look good. Thanks to you all for the info. |
billschaller
Senior Member
Username: billschaller
Post Number: 279
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 10:19 pm: |
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Years ago I was at a swap meet, and a man had a Waterman, or some other very early manufacture name brand engine that was set up as a stationary. Every other part on it was newly painted a different color, so I and a few other guys thought it was a homemade from parts engine. It wasn't cheap enough for me to take a chance on it. Later, BJ Pawlaczyk bought it, and then he showed me a picture of it in a catalog he had. I really wish I had gotten to it first, so I could make BJ trade me something good. |
richarddurgee
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Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 2137
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 11:24 pm: |
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I keep looking at the cyl head air fins and they seem to be turned sideways to the flow of air ??
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solarrog
Senior Member
Username: solarrog
Post Number: 365
Registered: 03-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, July 23, 2009 - 12:02 am: |
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In my youth I remember using parts from any engine I could make fit. Part were plentiful, money was not. I had some Frankenstein engines in those days, I still wonder if this wasn't somebodys project engine. I do not see any head bolts, so I guess the head is part of the cylinder |
axtion_jim
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Username: axtion_jim
Post Number: 20
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, July 23, 2009 - 12:50 am: |
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Richard the reason I thought the left hand engine in your photo may be related to the engine I have is the fact that some where I did see a photo of an other Evinrude & it did have a muffler on the exhaust outlet.Your engine dose appear to have something on the right side of the engine that looks simular to a muffler as I can recall.All I remember for sure is that looked like a disc shape and was about 1- 1/2 to 2 inch. thick. |
billschaller
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Username: billschaller
Post Number: 280
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, July 23, 2009 - 01:12 am: |
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here is an Evinrude garden tractor motor, just as comparison. This is a stock, original motor.
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solarrog
Senior Member
Username: solarrog
Post Number: 366
Registered: 03-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, July 23, 2009 - 01:23 am: |
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Bill I have the Evinrude farm pump with the rowboat motor on it, It uses a very simular muffler. again another great find |
richarddurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 2138
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, July 23, 2009 - 09:47 am: |
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Evinrude Marine Single 1916
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richarddurgee
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Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 2139
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, July 23, 2009 - 09:57 am: |
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Evinrude Marine Single
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billschaller
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Username: billschaller
Post Number: 281
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, July 23, 2009 - 10:10 am: |
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Evinrude Stationary Oil burn, very rare, and very big money.
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larry_from_maryland
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Username: larry_from_maryland
Post Number: 370
Registered: 07-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, July 23, 2009 - 12:30 pm: |
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With the fins turned sideways could it be a motercycle engine? |
solarrog
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Username: solarrog
Post Number: 367
Registered: 03-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, July 23, 2009 - 12:58 pm: |
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many of the small air cooled engine had a belt driven fan, are the any signs of mounting surfaces? for belt drives? even in the event that it did the fins going cross ways seems out of place. One more note, I know after market cylinders were made for these as I have one. Mine is water cooled though. I sure would like to see the bottom of the cylinder and mateing surface on the block. The passage on the cylinder doesnt seem to continue on to the lower block |
richarddurgee
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Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 2140
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, July 23, 2009 - 01:31 pm: |
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The serial numbers on these inboard Evinrudes was lightly stamped into the edge of the mounting flange ? knowing the year would be interesting?
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axtion_jim
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Username: axtion_jim
Post Number: 21
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Friday, July 24, 2009 - 12:22 am: |
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Took a close look at the flange and came up with CO81070 OR CC81072. I did not want to disturb the paint, so it is the best I can do. What do you all think? |
ernie
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Username: ernie
Post Number: 998
Registered: 01-2002
| | Posted on Friday, July 24, 2009 - 08:21 am: |
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CC is an Evinrude single cylinder inboard 1916 to 1924 however they were water cooled so as to the air cooled cylinder??? |
richarddurgee
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Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 2141
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Friday, July 24, 2009 - 12:55 pm: |
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The red single above is CC 61240, 1916
Andrew has the serial number list !
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ernie
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Username: ernie
Post Number: 999
Registered: 01-2002
| | Posted on Friday, July 24, 2009 - 01:57 pm: |
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It's also in the "Old Outboard" book |
richarddurgee
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Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 2142
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Friday, July 24, 2009 - 02:21 pm: |
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Ernie
The CC desingation for singles, or DD for twins is listed but I haven't been able to find the numbers as they relate to the year of mfgr in The Old Outboard Book ??
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ernie
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Username: ernie
Post Number: 1000
Registered: 01-2002
| | Posted on Friday, July 24, 2009 - 04:20 pm: |
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The Old Outboard Book listing is as follows:
CC Single Cyl Inboard 1916 to 1924
DD Twin Cyl Inboard 1916 to 1927
DDR Twin Cyl Inboard (reverse) 1916 to 1927
Only the outboards have serial numbers |
axtion_jim
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Username: axtion_jim
Post Number: 22
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, July 25, 2009 - 12:34 am: |
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Tonight I had a look at this gem and have you noticed that there is a brass bushing on the out put side of the crank. Also there is a indent in the crank about were the water pump cam is located. I also did notice that their is two small center punch marks,one on the base of the jug& the other directly below on the base. |
