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blacklab3093
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Username: blacklab3093

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Registered: 04-2009
Posted on Monday, April 20, 2009 - 02:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi all,
I just inherited this little gem. It says Caille Perfection Motor Detroit Michigan. It came from a wood boat name unknown. 3 holes in flywheel and 3 bolt drive shaft. I was able to save the drive shaft and fittings that go through the transom however some a$$ stole the prop, rudder, and exhaust.
I've done some searching but still not sure exactly what i have here or much about how this thing works. I'm real curious about the lever that goes down on the flywheel side, what's with the brass block attached to the crankshaft and cylinder on the other side? Is that some sort of carburetor or fuel injection or what? is that wood box for the ignition stock or an add-on? Any idea how to date this little guy or other information?
here are the pics:http://s585.photobucket.com/albums/ss295/blacklab3093/
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jb_castagnos
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Registered: 07-2002


Posted on Monday, April 20, 2009 - 08:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The brass block appears to be a fabricated water pump. The original should have been cast, someone did a nice job. The exhaust manifold is missing, many are. Not too many in this area with the original timers, most were replaced with Lockwood Ash timers, an easy conversion and a more durable timer, good to see the original. The ignition coil is the Ford Model T type, usually it would have been in a separate box with dry cell batteries, they were susceptible to moisture, mounted on the cylinder would be easy to drown out unless the engine was under cover.
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blacklab3093
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Posted on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 12:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This may sound like a dumb question but what is a "timer"? Is that like a distributor? Sorry but I'm used to working on cars, assume I don't know anything about an engine of this design sorry to say.
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ernie
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Posted on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 07:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The timer is a timed switch to turn the ignition coil on and off. Most of these old engines use a buzz coil AKA Model T Ford ignition coil. This style of ignition just needed to be turned on and off. So yes similar to a distributor
Hope this helps
Ernie
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ernie
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Posted on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 07:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Take a look here
http://www.oldmarineengine.com/technical/ignition_miro/ignition_box.html
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blacklab3093
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Posted on Thursday, April 23, 2009 - 04:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wow. That's interesting. I see how the speed of the opening and closing of the points works but how does that align with the movement of the piston? BTW is this a two stroke motor and is that shaft coming up the flywheel side of the motor with a lever attached to a hockey puck looking thing a reverse system?
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blacklab3093
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Posted on Thursday, April 23, 2009 - 04:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah, they sure did do a good job on that water pump if it's not stock. Somebody had skills.

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