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mick_christie
New member
Username: mick_christie
Post Number: 1
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, January 21, 2006 - 09:56 pm: | 
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G'day All
Can anyone shed some light on a small 4-stroke regal marine engine which i have just acquired? it is 2 h.p, No9068 and has a 13 inch spoked flywheel. Can anyone give me a rough date?
Thanks in advance
Mick |
andrew
Moderator
Username: andrew
Post Number: 1344
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2006 - 12:22 pm: |
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Mick,
Can you post a picture of it?
Have you searched this board for pictures of other small Regals? Does it look like any of them? |
mick_christie
New member
Username: mick_christie
Post Number: 2
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2006 - 10:23 pm: |
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G'day Andrew
Had a look through the board and could'nt find anyting similar. So here is are some pics of my engine.
Cheers
Mick
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andrew
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Username: andrew
Post Number: 1352
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 02:29 pm: |
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Mick,
I believe that is a "Model Y".
- Model Y
- 3-1/4 x 3-1/2
- 2HP
- 130 lbs w/o gear
- 175 lbs w gear
- 100 to 800 rpm
- propeller usually 10" dia x 12" pitch 3 blade
I don't know the year, but it does appear in a 1927 catalog that I have.
There are pictures of other model Y engines here on the site... you could check in the photos from the various shows.
It's a nice engine. I think Ernie has had one or more over the years, he might be able to help with specifics. |
mick_christie
New member
Username: mick_christie
Post Number: 3
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - 05:53 pm: |
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G'day Andrew
Thanks for the info it is much appreciated. Yes my engine is a model Y as all the part numbers start with a y. Any idea what type of magneto was standard equipment for regal engines?
Will have a look through the show pictures to see what i can find.
Cheers
Mick |
bigdogphil
New member
Username: bigdogphil
Post Number: 1
Registered: 02-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 04:28 pm: |
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Hello all,
I just found this site. I am the great grandson of the founder,Arthur E. Robinson of the the Regal Marine Engine Co. My grandfather, Philip Robinson was a saleman for the company. My father, George Herman who passed away last March collected Fordson tractors and had several antique engines. He was able to aquire five Regals for my mother, Janet Robinson Herman. While I'm no expect in the area of engines my mother or myself would be happy to hear from anyone interested in Regals. I'll try to post pictures of our Regals and some other Regal items we have.
Philip Herman |
solarrog
Senior Member
Username: solarrog
Post Number: 124
Registered: 03-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 04:43 pm: |
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Its good to here direct from a family member, can you offer any family history about the Regal engines?? maybe information about your grandfather& great grandfather, did you know them? Its the lost information that makes this hobby fun. 
Roger??? smalldogpile.......lol |
andrew
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Username: andrew
Post Number: 557
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 09:24 pm: |
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I second Rogers comments...
Great to have you here Phillip, looking forward to anything you would like to share with us.
Also, if you haven't done so already, use the search link at the top of the page and search for regal. You will find a lot of postings and photos. |
holcomb
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| | Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 12:42 am: |
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http://www.powerhousemuseum.com/collection/database/?irn=211152&img=58600 |
Lars Erikols
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| | Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2008 - 03:11 pm: |
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I own a Regal with 2 cyl. It is in pieses.
"Regal Gasoline Engine Co, manufactures Coldwater Michigan USA No 3293" |
mmboat
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| | Posted on Monday, February 07, 2011 - 10:57 pm: |
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Not sure if anyone is still on this post. But I just recently acquired a Regal Hit Miss Marine engine. Model Y No. 11197. 2hp 4 cycle. Prop not original. Was wondering if anyone would know the year. I'm having a hard time finding info. Also, how much an estimated value? Thanks in advance
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ernie
Senior Member
Username: ernie
Post Number: 1315
Registered: 01-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2011 - 12:19 pm: |
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The engine is NOT hit and miss. It is throttle controlled marine which didn't require a govenor as the load of the prop prevented over speed.
As to the actual year maybe one of our members can assist.
As to value it is worth what ever someone is willing to pay. This is a resource for restoration and where to find info so really not the best place to figure out value. If it has been in salt water it has no value as the water jackets rust from the inside out. It looks like a real nice restoration but cosmetics can hide a lot too.
Hope this helps
Ernie |
mmboat
Visitor
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2011 - 08:56 pm: |
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Ernie, I appreciate the info. Do you know or can recommend resources(websites,catalogs,books, etc) that I can do further research on Regal Gasoline Co.? Haven't found much on the net. This site has been the best resource so far.
Thanks again |
bruce
Senior Member
Username: bruce
Post Number: 251
Registered: 07-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2011 - 09:34 pm: |
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Cold Water Mi. Library?? None of my business but I hope you didn't pay the price listed on Antique Boat America for it. |
mmboat
Visitor
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2011 - 09:40 pm: |
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Thanks again. No I didn't. |
mmboat
Visitor
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2011 - 09:53 pm: |
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Bruce. Actually I'm still negoiating. And want to find out more info on this motor before purchasing. So I guess I haven't actually acquired it yet. Any info would be appreciated. |
ernie
Senior Member
Username: ernie
Post Number: 1316
Registered: 01-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 09, 2011 - 08:20 am: |
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In my book it is worth less restored. But then for me "the fixin and the first start are the fun"
Also most of these I have seen have a Schebler Model D carb so what is on it may not be original. |
keith
Senior Member
Username: keith
Post Number: 319
Registered: 02-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 09, 2011 - 04:50 pm: |
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Ernie, To each his own and each situation is different but, restored boats require restored engines.
Keith |
richarddurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 2580
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 09, 2011 - 04:53 pm: |
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Some notes from my data base. If any Differences are known please share them here so that the info can be adjusted !
Regal Gasoline Engine Company,10 West Pearl and Monroe Streets, Coldwater, Michigan.
Regal beginnings are vague and allude to the George Shuger bicycle shop in the late 1890's, some sort of engines were made by hand very late 1890's to 1901 when Arthur Robinson and his son Harold established the Regal Gasoline Engine Co. it was a family company that also included another son P.H.Robinson that handled sales for the company, as yrs went by harold took over engine design. 4 cycle high grade engines were always their product from the yrs 1901 to later part of 1939 when the co. was sold and renamed the Regal Manufactuing Co. and began war time production of bomb nose cones.
The Co. mfgd a line of marine engines from singles to multi's, gasoline and Oil (kerosene).
In the teens they also designed a 2 Hp air cooled engine that powered a generator the trade name was Regalite that sold for many yrs.
As to the 2 Hp water cooled engine in this discussion it appears that it came on the market
about 1919 and was still in their 1929 catalog. some details are evident that the engine evolved over the yrs and can help with a general frame of time as to dating them ??
This 2 Hp Model Y as it was always called seems to be the first Regal eng with a spoked flywheel,
previous and other models stayed with the solid flywheel with two holes ( I assume for puller jaws) ?
This is the earliest model Y that I have photos of its serial# 9875. it has the optional magneto drive, others had a sub frame and reverse gear option as well .
The differences I see from the later ones are basically in the exhaust piping, manifold and the discharge water pipe ?
These are same photos as original post
Regal under discussion Serial # 11197 being several numbers later in sequence and the exhaust is now unique to the engine with a heat stove and muffler / discharge water seperator, the discharge water tube is a brass flat flanged fitted tube.
The lever operated carburetor seems to have been modified and I agree with Ernie that the carburetor is probably not correct, to be seen in later photos as to the piping from carb intake to manifold heat stove ?
This Model Y serial # 12022 is several numbers newer than the previous photos and a very nice all original engine in J.B.'s collection in Louisiana.
The lever controlling the carb is seen here with the original balcrank and rods, only thing missing is the heat stove tube to carb and down south here where its so hot maybe that's optional ?
This is photo of 1928 Model Y with optional Carlyle- Johnson Reverse gear
This is photo of 1929 model Y from catalog #20
Notice difference in exhaust design and discharge water pipe is now standard pipe with elbows and union.
although not being able to set very close mfging dates I hope it is of interest and a step in the right direction ??
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mmboat
Visitor
| | Posted on Monday, February 14, 2011 - 09:57 pm: |
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Thanks Richard and everyone for all the great info. I truely appreciate all your time you took to post. This is great! |
searcher
Senior Member
Username: searcher
Post Number: 488
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Friday, July 15, 2011 - 12:21 am: |
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Here is a Regal up for auction on on eBay:
250854148541 |
