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rgvrr
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Username: rgvrr
Post Number: 11
Registered: 09-2002
| | Posted on Monday, November 15, 2004 - 07:43 pm: | 
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Spent a little time at the Rochester library today looking at the city directories.
Trying to figure out relationship of FA Brownell, Trebert Gas Engine, HLF Trebert, Rochester Motors Corp, Brownell-Trebert
Here are Notes:
1. Trebert Gas Engine Co at 163 W Main ca 1903 (catlog)
2. Trebert Gas Engine Co at 480 W Main ca 1908 (ad posted by Richard)
3. FA Brownell is successor to Brownell-Trebert. Located at 634 Lexington Ave (1907-08 catalog)
4.HLF Trebert at 1182 St Paul ca 1908 (ad posted by Richard)
5. HLF Trebert at 407 St Paul in 1910 City Dir
6. HLF Trebert at 495 St Paul in 1912 City Dir
7. FA Brownell at 634 Lexington in 1910 city dir
8. 7 FA Brownell at 634 Lexington in 1912 city dir
9. Rochester Motors Corp located at 634 Lexington in 1920 city dir
10. Card file says Rochester Motors in Directories 1914-1925
11. Trebert Airplane Motor Co incorporated in 1917.
Have some more digging, but did Brownell join original Trebert Gas Engine to Form Brownell -Trebert? Then did they split to form HLF Trebert and FA Brownell? Then did Rochester Motors take over FA Brownell?
I would appreciate any input. Going back next week.
John |
richarddurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 615
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Monday, November 15, 2004 - 10:09 pm: |
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Still working on this but close !
1.1897 thru 1906-- Trebert Auto & Marine Co-
Trebert Gas Engine Co.
2.1906 Brownell- Trebert Co.
3.1907 F.A. Brownell Motor co.
4.1907 H.L.F Trebert forms a new Co.
calls his engs Reliance
5. Still looking into Rochester,s history ! |
richarddurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 616
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Monday, November 15, 2004 - 10:26 pm: |
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This 1910 ad takes Rochester back to 1898 !
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miro
Senior Member
Username: miro
Post Number: 152
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 16, 2004 - 05:08 pm: |
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I like the ad - especially about fussy engines.
Sounds like the modern day equivalent of some of the software packages that I have to deal with.
Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme.
miro |
richarddurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 619
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 17, 2004 - 02:09 pm: |
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Tech-nologic-al Demons
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richarddurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 622
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, November 18, 2004 - 09:11 pm: |
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1905
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bruce
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Username: bruce
Post Number: 241
Registered: 07-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, November 18, 2004 - 09:56 pm: |
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Amazing how these lengthy 4ft beam round bilge hulls didn't just roll over and fill with water from the counter torque of the engines driving them.. or did they?? |
rgvrr
Member
Username: rgvrr
Post Number: 13
Registered: 09-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, November 18, 2004 - 10:04 pm: |
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Ricard,
Thanks for keeping the imfo coming!
John |
richarddurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 623
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Friday, November 19, 2004 - 10:01 pm: |
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1911 Elbridge ad --
rgvrr--- John, noticed your "Niagara" logo, do you have any of those Buffalo Built engines ??
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bruce
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Username: bruce
Post Number: 242
Registered: 07-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, November 20, 2004 - 10:29 am: |
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Eastern wide waters may be refering to an Erie canal boat basin common outside municipal areas that buffered traffic through a city synomous to a rail yard. This must have been East of Culver Rd along the canal/Monroe ave area-rgvrr???? Any mention found on the Reliance line Richard mentions? The boat in the Rochester Gas Engine Co. ad I believe is the "DORNO" built by a firm on South Ave near the Genesee River- possibly the Genesee launch and engine Co (????) |
richarddurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 624
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, November 20, 2004 - 11:01 am: |
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Bruce
1911 ad, Looks like same Trebert engine, "Reliance" new trade name ?
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richarddurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 625
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, November 20, 2004 - 11:17 am: |
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1910 Elbridge
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rgvrr
Member
Username: rgvrr
Post Number: 14
Registered: 09-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, November 20, 2004 - 03:47 pm: |
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Bruce,
Yes Estern Wide Watrers is east of Culver & 490, where the pond is for Cobbs Hill Park. Canal was where 490 is now. Theres a lock right by Culver rd.
John |
richarddurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 627
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, November 21, 2004 - 11:00 am: |
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Add these names to the Rochester List of engine makers to research
1. Gear & Miller
2. Mallinson H. about 1913
3. Durand Boat Motor Co. |
rgvrr
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Username: rgvrr
Post Number: 15
Registered: 09-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, November 27, 2004 - 08:47 am: |
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A little more detail on the Treberts. There were two, Henry Trebert was father, and Henry L F was son. Need to sift through info |
richarddurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 672
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, December 12, 2004 - 01:44 pm: |
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Elbridge
GEER & Miller 1915
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richarddurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 698
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 06:42 pm: |
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This is an interesting Rochester,N.Y engine !
1922 ad, 4 cycle no valves, intake wrapped around the cylinder ?
Any one know about these engines ??
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richarddurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 699
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 06:50 pm: |
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