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Thor
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| | Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2004 - 03:32 pm: | 
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I'm looking at a '57 Matthews that has Palmer V8 engines listed as 265hp models. The current owner believes that this was a re-engine by the previous owner. How reliable are these engines? Hours of operation between rebuilds? Parts availability?
Any information would be appreciated...I'll upload photos if I can |
Thor
Visitor
| | Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2004 - 03:34 pm: |
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Another pic |
ernie
Senior Member
Username: ernie
Post Number: 426
Registered: 01-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2004 - 06:11 pm: |
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It, they look like Palmer IH 345 or one of that series of International Harverster Truck/Bus ingine marine conversions done by Palmer |
richardday
Senior Member
Username: richardday
Post Number: 318
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2004 - 09:06 pm: |
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As far as reliability goes it seems to me it all depends on whether the engine and manifold were fresh water cooled. Salt water cooled at this age would suggest it is moot how long the engine will be useable. |
thor
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Username: thor
Post Number: 1
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Monday, October 25, 2004 - 02:44 pm: |
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It's a fresh water boat...at this time, and I believe since these engines were installed. Even so, it began life in FL, but has a keel cooler to keep the engines recycling clean water. |
richardday
Senior Member
Username: richardday
Post Number: 319
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Monday, October 25, 2004 - 08:06 pm: |
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Does that fresh water cooling include the exhaust manifolds as well as the block. It could have salt water discharged into the exhaust pipes which would not jepardize the life of the exhaust manifolds but some people cut costs and only fresh water cooled the cylinder block and head. If the manifolds were fresh water cooled then the engine should be easily rebuilt and have an extended life. Parts for the engine are probably easily obtained from the engine maker. Palmer only added the marine trim such as mounts, carburetor backfire trap, reverse gear, marine fuel pump etc. Engine rebuilders should have no trouble in rebuilding the engine as good as new when that becomes necessary. Track down just what was cooled by the keel cooler and see how the exhaust risers etc were cooled with sea water. If the boat is to be used in cold areas use a 50:50 fresh water/anti freeze mix in the keel cooler portion of the system. This avoids worries that the block will be cracked in cold weather. Won't help on the salt or exhaust water side but that area is generally a lot easier to drain and if something freezes not so exspensive to replace unless the boat sinks. Those would be my thoughts in the matter. |
thor
New member
Username: thor
Post Number: 2
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 26, 2004 - 07:54 am: |
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Thanks for the information. I'll be on the boat shortly and will get more data from the tags and keel cooler installation and more. The owner indicated that this was the first boat built by Matthews with a keel cooler installed so it may be 'unique'. I'll be getting manufacturing information from the Matthews Owners Group also which should shed some light on its origins. Since it is currently a Great Lakes boat I'll definately be checking for indications of proper winterization. |
Arthur Fairwell
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| | Posted on Thursday, November 17, 2005 - 11:17 pm: |
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I just bought a completely rebuilt set of the same palmer international 265hp engines. The company that performed the rebuild also replaced clutch packs in transmissions and pressure tested heat exchangers. All work was completed for just under $9200.00. The boat they were slated to go in sunk and owner sold them to me at a loss. My research indicates that they are extremely reliable and have no timing chain, but gear driven timing. They are built for farm industrial application and will remain reliable as long as they are maintained. I will share more as I learn more. Feel free to call with questions. 503-807-7977 |
Lawrence T Wolfe
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Username: larry_from_maryland
Post Number: 276
Registered: 07-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, November 19, 2005 - 10:46 pm: |
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Do you mean 265HP or 265CI.The 265ci is a commonly used farm tractor engine. |
Lawrence T Wolfe
Senior Member
Username: larry_from_maryland
Post Number: 277
Registered: 07-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, November 19, 2005 - 10:53 pm: |
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Oop's i ment to say TRUCK engine not farm in the post above. |
