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fredc
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Posted on Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 10:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Today I examined an old four-cylinder T-head engine that bore the inscription "Ferro" with a "K 10" beneath it on each of the individual cylinder castings. It was high on a mountainside in Washington, near an old mine, and I'm trying to establish its possible use. The crankcase was a rounded bottom aluminum casting, the flywheel was 19" dia, with wide spokes cast as fan blades. The bore was 4 1/4" and the stroke about 4 or 4 1/4 inches. Integral within the rear of the casting was a multiple disc clutch and throwout assembly. The FERRO was cast into the cylinder heads, on the "rear" side of each one. Although one cylinder head was missing, the other three had a different symbol cast into the front side: "K", a triangle, and "X" were the three symbols on cylinder 1,2, and 3 (#4 head was gone). Does anyone have any info that might be useful in confirming the use, date of manufacture, etc.? Fred Cruger, Granite Falls Historical Museum, Washington. I do have quite a few pictures, but I'll not take up space posting them unless there is some interest. Thanks in advance for any info you can offer.
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ernie
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Posted on Monday, October 11, 2004 - 07:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Please post pics. Feel free to forward the pics to me for posting assistance
Hope this helps
Ernie
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fredc
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Posted on Monday, October 11, 2004 - 07:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Ernie,
I hope you got the pictures. I didn't have time to reduce their size, but I'll try posting one here.
Thanks,
Fred
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fredc
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Posted on Monday, October 11, 2004 - 08:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Three of the pictures are small enough, I think (<50K). I'll try posting them.Picture from left rear of engine
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fredc
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Posted on Monday, October 11, 2004 - 08:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here's a shot of the cylinder heads (rearmost head missing, water jacket on #2 broken)cylinder T-heads
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fredc
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Posted on Monday, October 11, 2004 - 08:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

View from above engine, clearly shows broken water jacket on #2. The gear at the front of the cam on the right side of the engine may have been used in conjunction with the timing marks on the flywheel (which is clearly marked for a 4-cycle engine), or it may have driven something external (although it's not clear where anything would have mounted).top view
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ernie
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Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2004 - 02:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here is the last of Freds pics. I wonder what this engine was used for when it was new. It does look kind of like a reverse gear. Richard what can you find on this?
Ferro 4
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andrew
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Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2004 - 05:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nice job with the photos and text highlights Fred!

Bob Price has a lot of Ferro info.

Found on a mountain... maybe it powered Noah's Ark?
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bruce
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Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2004 - 08:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Noah Must have repowered to a pair of Sterling Dolphin's or Petrel's.
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richarddurgee
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Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2004 - 08:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This engine reminds me that info on Ferro after the mid teens in marine publications is nil. 1907 thru mid teens lots of two stroke ads, catalogs etc, 1917 ad says they made 4 cycle marine engines , but no illustrated ads.
Just thinking out loud, the engine above is probably late teens to 20's. Don't remember where i read it but i believe Ferro went into making engine driven fluid pumps, With the fan blade flywheel spokes the one above is probably a water/pump ?? Many of these Co's around 1917-18 were making equipment for Government for WWI, maybe they got caught up in that.
Ferro made some 4 cycle marine engs in the 1930's era i,ve seen a few, or maybe they were marinized versions of their industrial engs?? Anyone ever seen a Ferro catalog with 4 cycle engs in it ??
Interesting to know Ferro's history, they were a first class mfgr of marine engs with several patents and the best of tooling and production methods !
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rbprice
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Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2004 - 09:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I would suggest that it is a Ferro casting but not a Ferro engine. They were, after all, the Ferro Machine and FOUNDRY Co.
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donald aitken
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Posted on Sunday, July 03, 2005 - 11:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I listed a 228ci 6 cyl GMC engine for sale on eBay on 07-01-05. The ad will run for ten days.
This engine has a cyl head with the FERRO logo name with an arrow thru it just as your picture shows in the above story. Thanks --- just adding my two cents worth --- Donald
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