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| Palmer P-60, was Palmer or IH first |
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Eddie
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2004 - 04:55 pm: | 
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Was the P-60 derived from the tractor engine or vise versa. How late was the tractor engine produced. |
Richard Day
| | Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2004 - 08:30 am: |
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The IHC CUB tractor engine was first. Don't know the year but it seems to me some time in the late 1940s but don't count on that as fact. Palmer marinized the IHC CUB in 1955. The early years of production used the tractor flywheel and in later years Palmer made their own much heavier flywheel. It was called Whippet, Huskey, IH-60, M-60, P-60 etc. They were all the same engine with trivial differences in trim. In the early 60s Palmer thought they were going to be bought by IHC but that deal fell through. During that period they labeled the engine made by International Marine Power. The point in all this the "P-60" is the IHC CUB, C-60 "Low Boy" tractor engine and you can get the engine parts as distinct from the marine parts from Value-Bilt, tractor parts at 1-888-828-3276. Don't confuse the P-60 engine with the IHC Cub Cadet engine they are not repeat not the same engine. Any tractor engine rebuilder can rebuild a Cub C-60 tractor block using the crankshaft from an old P-60 marine engine. The crankshaft must be the marine crankshaft as IHC ground the end opposite the flywheel to mate with the Paragon OXKB reverse gear. This creates no problem for an engine rebuilder as all the critical engine related crankshaft dimensions are standard IHC. In effect you will have a new P-60 engine. You then bolt on the marine trim from your old engine and you are back in business. Don't rebuild unless you have a good exhaust manifold as that is the hard item to find. I have no evidence anyone is currently making replacement manifolds and whether anyone will pick up that expensive chore is a moot point. Incidently the IHC CUB tractor maintenance manual is very useful with regard to technical detail on the CUB engine. |
Olarry
| | Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2004 - 07:02 pm: |
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Value-bilt is allso online at WWWvalue-bilt.com They have alot of the large plugs for 4 cycle engines just look under J Deere. |
gregheath
| | Posted on Monday, May 10, 2004 - 08:35 pm: |
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I just discovered this site. I have a 72 Islander 36 with a P-60 that is raw water cooled. The engine seems to lack power and foul plugs quickly. Should I be looking into a rebuild or tune up. |
Eddie
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 - 07:36 am: |
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Greg,
Are the plugs black when fouled?
Eddie |
gregheath
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 - 05:19 pm: |
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Eddie,
yes, the plugs are black and wet.
Greg |
Eddie
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 - 07:42 pm: |
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Greg,
A poorly operating ignition and/or a clogged flame arrester on the carburator is suspect. With your ignition start with lifting the distributor cap. Turn engine over and check that the points have a gap. Look for any defects, misalighnment, pitted or worn points. You may want to install new points and condenser while you are in there. See if that helped. Remember, once in a while you can get a bad condenser that is brand new, right out of the box. I would then replace the cap and rotor. The cap will have a keyway on the rim to line it up on the distributor. Change each wire on at a time so that you don't mix them up.
Part numbers:
Distributor cap AL-134
Rotor AL-150
Condenser AL111
Points AL4556XP
I recommend Blue Streak or other good brand. Do these things at least. Let me know how it works out.
Eddie |
gregheath
| | Posted on Monday, May 17, 2004 - 10:10 pm: |
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Eddie,
Thanks for the suggestions. I hope to make it out to the boat some time with week.
Greg |
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