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miro
| | Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 04:22 pm: | 
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OK guys - can anyone out there identify the engines and the factory in these 2 pictures?
They gotta be old because they are open case engines, but are overhead cams, 4 cycle. From the group shot, I reckon the guy with the bowler hat is the boss man.
Can you impagine what these engines must have sounded like when running?
If anyone wants files with better resolution, I'd be pleased to send them via email .
miro
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miro
| | Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 04:24 pm: |
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lets try this again:{oldpic1} and :{oldpic2} |
miro
| | Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 04:26 pm: |
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Once more with feeling
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rbprice
| | Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 05:36 pm: |
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How about Atlas in San Francisco ca 1900?
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Bob
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 01:01 am: |
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I have an atlas here, 5 hp. it is a vertical sideshaft but with a valve chest on the aft end of the engine using 2 vertical poppit vaves, also the Atlas is a headless design not on a 4 post system as the standard is but on a "A" frame style cast integrilaty in the barrel casting with oval inspecton plate covers with atlas cast on them.I believe there is a pic in the last book by stan grayson of one of our club members restored atlas.
The Standard uses horizontal valves activated off the layshaft,i talked to a service dealer who sold standards and he mentioned that the company introduced an overhead valve high speed engine before the company went bankrupt...looks like a frisco bed plate.......all of the marine versions of the standard use an 5 spoke flywheel that i have seen.I believe i see one in pic number 2 bob..... |
BOB
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 01:34 am: |
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Here is a picture of a 4 H.P. Standard that i have bob....
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Bob
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 08:34 am: |
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Here is a side view,note the simularities in the bedplate ,govenor housing,horizontal valve placement,similar to that on pic number 2,I have a
intake valve assy in front of me that is idendical to the ones in pic #1 including the brass handle... bob.
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Tim Hoehn
| | Posted on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 06:51 pm: |
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Just got my first antique gas engine. It came with a houseboat and is like the Standard above. If anyone has more information on these please let me know. Also I am going to try and fire it up one day soon. Here are some pictures.
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Tim Hoehn
| | Posted on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 07:26 pm: |
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How do I delete these screwed up messages?
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Tim Hoehn
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2004 - 01:38 pm: |
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So what should I keep in mind as I fire this baby up? It hasnt been run in many years, and I am not that familiar with these engines. All I know is this thing is begging to be fired up :-) |
Robert
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2004 - 08:50 pm: |
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Nice find! How about a few of the boat too? Are you on Whidbey Island? Seen some funky carb connections, but that one takes the cake. |
J.B. Castagnos
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2004 - 09:34 pm: |
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Have you turned it over yet? Be careful, stuck parts can easily be broken, make sure every thing moves before turning the engine, wish it were mine. |
Tim Hoehn
| | Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2004 - 12:02 am: |
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It turns over nicely. and has plenty of compression ( as far as I can feel ). I do think that that is a modified carb connection. all the other ones I have seen have it much lower. The boat itself is kind of interesting. Its an old home-built paddle-wheel houseboat.
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Tim Hoehn
| | Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2004 - 12:10 am: |
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Yes, I am on Whidbey :-) One thing I noticed is that the porcelain of the spark plug is broken. What kind of a plug does it take? I want to fire it up, polish it up, then the whole boat is going to be turned into an espresso stand :-) |
Robert
| | Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2004 - 01:24 am: |
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Whidby Queen, ex: Lone Lake B&B? I read all about it here: http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g58557-d116169-Reviews-Lone_Lake_Cottage_and_Breakfast-Langley_Whidbey_Island_Washington.html Yikes! But getting back to the engine, any old spark plug with a 3/4" National Pipe Thread should work fine. The Champion X had a nice brass cap on it that looks well on an old engine. Talk to someone who is into Model T Fords - they should have plenty. The Champion 25 also has a 3/4" NPT but no brass cap, however they are easier to find. Perhaps I was wrong about the carb, I'll brighten up the the photo a bit and check again. Am curious about "all the others (you) have seen..."!? Tell us more. If you can find out who built the boat you might be able to learn something about the history of that particular engine - if you interested? I assume this engine dates no later than the 1920s? Comments from the Standard experts? |
Tim Hoehn
| | Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2004 - 02:00 am: |
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I have found a few pix browsing the web. And there is a guy in this forum that has one. All have the carb in a different location. Yes that is the boat from the Lone Lake B&B. hehe small world eh? I would love to find out the history of the engine. I have done some research, but the guy who built the boat is long gone, and he son ( a friend of mine) doesnt know much about it. I am still doing research though. Thanx for the info in the spark plug. I want to find out all I can about these engines. :-) |
Richard Day
| | Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2004 - 05:26 pm: |
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Robert, I think you mis-spoke. The Ford T, X plug and its million + deriviatives are all 1/2" NPT not 3/4" NPT. |
rholcomb
| | Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2004 - 08:52 pm: |
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as far as the carb is concerned most were moved up to the head, the long intake condenses the fuel which translates into a drippy carb most of the ones i see at shows have a brass flower bucket under the carb. where does the plug go???? it should be a plate over the ignitor hole 2 holes...... |
Robert
| | Posted on Friday, May 07, 2004 - 12:24 am: |
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Dick, gadzooks, I should know better having cut at least a thousand of 'em. Thanks! |
rholcomb
| | Posted on Friday, May 07, 2004 - 01:35 am: |
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rholcomb
| | Posted on Friday, May 07, 2004 - 01:43 am: |
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Tim Hoehn
| | Posted on Friday, May 07, 2004 - 01:51 am: |
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Nice! I wonder if mine was originally green.... |
Dave Sanders
| | Posted on Sunday, May 09, 2004 - 09:03 pm: |
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miro, I actually have the 3 cyl 30-horse Standard in your "oldpoic" photograph but it is in pieces. I would love to have a better resolution photo of it since I'm not sure about how all goes together and what I may be missing. Wondering if a clearer photo could be had via CD through snail mail. If you are willing. It really is a neat engine and I am anxious to get started on it. |
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