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Neville John Bond
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Username: neville_bond

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Registered: 08-2017
Posted on Sunday, August 06, 2017 - 10:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello again !
I have been away from here for a while, I recently bought a Gray Phantom 4 45 here in the UK , it had been sat in a brick shed for over 40 years and was in a sorry state , but it was cheap enough , everything was seized up , I have managed to free everything up but could only remove two pistons intact , the other two had fused to the bores and broke coming out , so I am looking to replace these but I,m at a loss as to what the part number could be ? I understand Continental made the engine , mine is the one with the distributor in the head , if anyone could point me in the direction of some parts that would be great.
I will post some pictures when I re-learn how too .
Many thanks
Nev
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Ned Lloyd
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Username: ned_l

Post Number: 144
Registered: 08-2012
Posted on Sunday, August 06, 2017 - 09:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I believe the Continental number should be cast into the block (close to the bottom near where the oil pan bolts on). That should then help you track to a Continental parts list.
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Robert
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Post Number: 899
Registered: 07-2003
Posted on Sunday, August 06, 2017 - 09:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Some info here Nev: http://www.oldmarineengine.com/discus/messages/3432/4164.html

Too modern for me though!
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Neville John Bond
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Posted on Monday, August 07, 2017 - 03:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Ned and Robert , I will get to work cleaning the old paint off the head this morning and find those numbers .

Nev
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Neville John Bond
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Posted on Monday, August 07, 2017 - 03:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I found this on the cylinder head Y 400 A
The engine serial number is on a plate on the gear box 81506. There is no letter prefix on the serial number .
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Bruce Hall
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Post Number: 611
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Monday, August 07, 2017 - 08:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Neville, Read Ned Lloyds comments slowly.. Look for the Continental numbers down near the pan...
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Neville John Bond
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Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 - 04:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Good morning all ...... I had another look as suggested , not as clearly cast as the cylinder head marks but it's the same
Y400 A
this is marked close to the fuel pump, at the other end and higher up is marked K 1 U
Thanks for looking
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Jim Staib
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Username: drrot

Post Number: 230
Registered: 09-2008


Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 - 10:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A Gray 4-45 should be 91CID. Zollner book says 508
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Neville John Bond
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Registered: 08-2017
Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2017 - 01:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Jim , I,ve been told today of an engine restorer who may be able to help , thanks also to everyone who replied , when I make more progress I will post on here again
Neville
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neville John Bond
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Registered: 03-2015
Posted on Sunday, July 01, 2018 - 01:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It runs again !! I managed to find some pistons in Canada , after a lot setbacks it was good to hear it run for the first time in about 40 years .
Thanks for all the help and information I have been given
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FMMCN3F2caY
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Ned Lloyd
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Registered: 08-2012
Posted on Wednesday, July 11, 2018 - 12:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It sounds good!

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