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MARK D WALICK
New member
Username: lesnlearned
Post Number: 3
Registered: 10-2017
| | Posted on Saturday, May 26, 2018 - 12:06 pm: | 
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I've recently come into possession of a '39 falls flyer and am in need of an engine. I've found a correct phantom, but have been looking for a fireball (boat's namesake btw). I think the difference between these two models is cam and carbs, but am hoping to learn more about these two models. It's important to me to know about what's in my Woodies as their current caretaker, and their stories leading up to the restorations that happens next.
And if you happen to know of someone that has a pre-war fireball or phantom (v6), please also feel free to comment. |
Bruce Hall
Senior Member
Username: bruce
Post Number: 644
Registered: 07-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, May 26, 2018 - 01:46 pm: |
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Mark, looks like the phantom series of gray engines were for the go fast recreational crowd and rated at 3600 rpm continuous where-as the fireball models were for the more serious race types with a ratings at 4000 continous rpm. Think fireball 140 and fireball 160. I think the Fireballs were painted red, Jim Staib will chime in I'm sure and clear this up.. Jim...?? |
Jim Staib
Senior Member
Username: drrot
Post Number: 244
Registered: 09-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, May 27, 2018 - 09:02 am: |
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First off they are straight sixes. According to the chart Fireballs were a higher speed version of the Phantoms and require better fuel. I do know Pre-War Grays have a different amount of head studs and are harder to find. |
MARK D WALICK
Member
Username: lesnlearned
Post Number: 4
Registered: 10-2017
| | Posted on Sunday, May 27, 2018 - 05:04 pm: |
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Yes, straight six! I'm stuck with V anything because of my Chris with her 283. Any idea on the number made, typical issues or mods frequently performed?
This is good information, thank you for taking the time to reply. Unwinding everything that could or would have been for this boat is probably my favorite part. So little information on her because the previous owner passed away. The hunt is just a little harder, but worth it.
Do you know anyone that has or might know of someone that has a fireball (I've seen one firing up in a video and it was indeed red)? |
MARK D WALICK
Member
Username: lesnlearned
Post Number: 5
Registered: 10-2017
| | Posted on Sunday, May 27, 2018 - 05:06 pm: |
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This is a motor I found, but isn't listed in the image you described. |
Jim Staib
Senior Member
Username: drrot
Post Number: 245
Registered: 09-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, May 27, 2018 - 05:23 pm: |
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That engine is a 1935. My chart only goes back to 1939. Hard to find. Parts are even harder to find. |
