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RichardDurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 3915
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Monday, November 28, 2016 - 02:20 pm: | 
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Keith Billet
Senior Member
Username: keith
Post Number: 476
Registered: 02-2002
| | Posted on Monday, November 28, 2016 - 09:29 pm: |
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Richard, On the four cylinder, what don't I see? The carbs/mixers don't seem to have an air intake, just fuel.
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J.B. Castagnos
Senior Member
Username: jb_castagnos
Post Number: 1267
Registered: 07-2002
| | Posted on Monday, November 28, 2016 - 09:56 pm: |
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Keith, if you look at the mixer on the far right I believe the inlet is a short snout, the large adjustment knobs hide the rest of them. |
RichardDurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 3916
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Monday, November 28, 2016 - 10:19 pm: |
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Keith
This photo is a bit more forward of the other one
shows the air intakes behind the fuel adjuster wheels.
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Nick Rowland
Member
Username: nar
Post Number: 25
Registered: 04-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2016 - 02:23 pm: |
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Although not exact, the cylinder of the engine in the first pictures (1a-c) reminds me of features of the cylinder on these two engines. These two engines are both unknown. They are different but most likely made by the same person or manufacturer. Neat thread & hopefully it solves a lot of the unknowns, -Nick
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RichardDurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 3917
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2016 - 07:35 pm: |
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Nick
The unknown and your black engine do share a lot in common, probably designed in late 1890's the pedestal base mount disappeared in early 1900's. your red engine is the later design with the crankcase split even with the crankshaft.
cool old stationary engines-- Thanks for posting photos !
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B. Goss
Senior Member
Username: bgoss
Post Number: 247
Registered: 12-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2016 - 08:18 pm: |
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Nick - we're supposed to be taking some of the unknowns off the list, not adding more! 
Thanks for posting. This should be a great thread. Blair |
RichardDurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 3920
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2016 - 07:28 pm: |
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This is an old one, pedestal base and spiral flywheel which I think weren't used on marine engines after 1902 or 1903 ?
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This copper top with a 4 flat spoke flywheel
is in Cajun country - would like to put a name on it ??
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Keith Billet
Senior Member
Username: keith
Post Number: 477
Registered: 02-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2016 - 09:15 pm: |
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Neat Thread,
And thanks for clearing the four cylinder intake. I have a 2 cylinder copper top that I need to add to this thread.
Thanks Richard, |
RichardDurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 3923
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, December 01, 2016 - 08:07 pm: |
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Could this be a "Lamb" ?
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RichardDurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 3925
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Friday, December 02, 2016 - 10:51 pm: |
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Is this a Waterman Porto with the round rim flywheel ? I keep records of marine engine name plates, this one is missing but left its outline ?
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Coppertop ?
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RichardDurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 3926
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, December 03, 2016 - 09:09 pm: |
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Out of town until next weekend, will continue unknown list then.
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Robert
Senior Member
Username: robert
Post Number: 812
Registered: 07-2003
| | Posted on Monday, December 05, 2016 - 11:38 am: |
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The one with the corrugated copper/brass jacket is quite a piece: obviously very early and no one off.
On the next one, with the missing jacket, has anyone ever seen "johnson bar" slots in the front face of a flywheel before? There doesn't seem to be any depression at the deep end of the slot for the bar to fit into though; could there have been some sort of kick or handle mechanism that went over the end of the crankshaft?
The end of a small compressed gas tank might make a good jacket given some heavy brass or copper plating first. |
RichardDurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 3927
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, December 08, 2016 - 07:04 am: |
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Interesting curved pushrod !
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RichardDurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 3928
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Friday, December 09, 2016 - 09:19 am: |
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Received this email !
I was on old marine engine site to night and your unknown motor post #3923 is my motor Its a Johnson yellow Jacket made by Johnson Brothers in 1904 in Ind.
5.above post
First marine engine made in 1903, second engine 1904.
Owner says his is number 2 1904
http://railwayvillage.org/event/johnson-outboard-motors-and-the-men-who-made-them/
Owner is mailing me info on engine, still trying to find more info on these early engines 1903-08.
THANK you Walter for help in identifying this really special marine engine !
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