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Philippe
New member
Username: nali
Post Number: 1
Registered: 10-2016
| | Posted on Sunday, October 16, 2016 - 02:03 pm: | 
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Hello.
First post here. I come from the AOMCI forum, where a member gave me this link.
I've had several outboard from 1929 to 1947 and live in Montreal.
And I'm french 
Locally there's an inboard engine on sale.
The seller doesn't seem to have any details about the engine.
For me it looks like a circa 1920 motor.
Price wanted is 150 $ CAD, all parts are supposed to be present, brass cylinder head and the engine has compression.
Any idea ?
Thanks.
Philippe.
http://i97.servimg.com/u/f97/12/47/40/91/_2710.jpg
http://i97.servimg.com/u/f97/12/47/40/91/_2711.jpg
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J.B. Castagnos
Senior Member
Username: jb_castagnos
Post Number: 1220
Registered: 07-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, October 16, 2016 - 05:59 pm: |
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This engine has what we call a pedestal base, the mounts are at the bottom, not at the center of the crankshaft. Most of the engines were pre 1910, turn of the century. There may be exceptions, I don't recognize the motor, don't see a water pump, is there a place for one? Some water pumps were friction driven from the flywheel. Nice looking engine, good price. |
RichardDurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 3897
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, October 16, 2016 - 06:13 pm: |
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A photo of the other side, intake-exhaust would probably ID it ?
FAIRBANKS ?
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Philippe
New member
Username: nali
Post Number: 2
Registered: 10-2016
| | Posted on Sunday, October 16, 2016 - 08:25 pm: |
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Sorry, I have only those 2 pictures from the adds.
And I don t know anything about inboards |
Philippe
New member
Username: nali
Post Number: 3
Registered: 10-2016
| | Posted on Sunday, October 16, 2016 - 08:35 pm: |
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So it could be a pre 1910 ?
I though 1920, but I don't know anything about boat engines.
The goal is not to restore it / sell / make money.
Just have fun and make it run
But if the price is correct, it s a +. |
Philippe
Member
Username: nali
Post Number: 4
Registered: 10-2016
| | Posted on Monday, October 17, 2016 - 09:25 am: |
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It looks a lot like this Fairbanks-Morse, so maybe @RichardDurgee is right :
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RichardDurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 3898
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Monday, October 17, 2016 - 11:25 am: |
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Morse made many models of marine engines, the engine in question here is not a Canadian Fairbanks, but has some DNA in common.
Many years ago Dick Day gave me some of his marine engine wisdom and said that when comparing engines always look closely at the casting shapes.
This is the only file photo I have of an Early (1910 or earlier)American Fairbanks single, compare the details of the castings.
This engine has the waterpump on the output shaft some had waterpump on manifold side down low driven by gear behind flywheel.
I'll see if I can find any info!
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Philippe
Member
Username: nali
Post Number: 5
Registered: 10-2016
| | Posted on Monday, October 17, 2016 - 06:06 pm: |
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Thanks a lot Richard !
For now, no sign of life from the seller ... |
Robert
Senior Member
Username: robert
Post Number: 775
Registered: 07-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2016 - 11:17 am: |
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You can't go wrong at that price Phillipe. We talked about Canadian marine engine builders here: http://www.oldmarineengine.com/discus/messages/1/269179.html
F-M did have a factory in Montreal in the early 1900s. I have a catalogue for their removeable head engines; I forget the series name, but it was a letter. They also made headless two cycle engines with domed tops reminiscent of the Atlantic or Acadia engines. |
Philippe
Member
Username: nali
Post Number: 6
Registered: 10-2016
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2016 - 10:20 pm: |
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Thanks Robert
In fact I don't know anything about early engines.
That s why I dd like to own one.
I really don t care about the price.
And have no money
Sinon je suis francophone. |
Robert
Senior Member
Username: robert
Post Number: 778
Registered: 07-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 19, 2016 - 11:26 am: |
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Pas d'argent? C'est pas bon, mais pas d'espoir est plus mal.
If you really want one, they are "out there". But who can stop at just one?! Keep looking and put up your own advertisements. Look around in the scrap metal yards, especially the older and smaller ones: out in the far corners and along the fences, where things have been sitting for a long time...There must still be many old engines in basements and under houses in the small villages along the St. Lawrence.
Bonne chance et bonne chase! |
Philippe
Member
Username: nali
Post Number: 7
Registered: 10-2016
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 19, 2016 - 09:35 pm: |
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Je me moque de la valeur !
Juste envie de mettre les mains dans la rouille
Nos amis anglophones ne vont rien comprendre ... |
Robert
Senior Member
Username: robert
Post Number: 779
Registered: 07-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2016 - 10:37 am: |
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Je suis aussi anglophone...
There must be thousands of engines in and along the St. Lawrence. And all fresh water cooled engines as far as the Saguenay? Talk to the scuba divers and the very old men along the river. They will know! |
