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jb_castagnos
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Post Number: 1131
Registered: 07-2002


Posted on Sunday, January 03, 2016 - 07:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here's some homework for Richard D. Bob acquired this Mullins from Ernie, it looks identical to a Roberts, has a timer instead of distributor. Do ou have any info on them?


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richarddurgee
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Post Number: 3755
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Sunday, January 03, 2016 - 10:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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W.H. Mullins Co. was established in 1872, started making stamped Steel boats in 1906, they never mfgd engines but bought from several makers over the Years.

this direct from data base info.

Was a metal stamping Company and made several different products, Architectural metal-work, Decoration and ornamental stampings, Manufactured Car Bodies, Franklin- Peerless , they made pressed steel boats Known for their underwater exhausts, and contracted with different engine mfgrs over the years for their engines, they did put Mullins tags on many engines !WWII made fueltanks for P51 Mustang.


1907 ad

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1919 ad

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These are file photos of Bobs engine in top post.

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Photos from Mystic show

a MULLINS tagged ROBERTS with pressure
oiling system.

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E.W. Roberts was one of the leading marine engine designers at the turn of the century, lots of info
in the SEARCH option at top of page.



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squareroot
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Post Number: 42
Registered: 09-2013


Posted on Sunday, January 03, 2016 - 10:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Roberts engine at Portland engine meet last August:

Roberts
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jb_castagnos
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Registered: 07-2002


Posted on Monday, January 04, 2016 - 08:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Richard, any idea what years they were mfg?
Wayne, that appears to be an early one with the pedestal base
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squareroot
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Post Number: 43
Registered: 09-2013


Posted on Monday, January 04, 2016 - 09:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

From Nov. 11, 1908, Popular Mechanics magazine:

1908 Roberts
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richarddurgee
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Post Number: 3757
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Tuesday, January 05, 2016 - 10:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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J.B. Not enough Mullins tags on file to draw
any conclusions but Its very probable that the
model number on Bobs engine 1910 is the year of manufacture ?


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Wayne: The Portland Roberts photo above has I believe answered a twenty year old mystery. E.W.Roberts claimed by 1905 to have designed many engines for many different manufacturers and I have discovered several but this early pedestal based,cylinder flanged to crankcase, rear exhaust and unique waterpump engine I have seen in many different styles with same basic castings and flywheel. An example would be the Cady Canoe Engine.

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Now with a Roberts tagged example ( never knew a Roberts tag on any engine he didn't design and manufacture) I believe that the many engines like this were from E.W.'s basic design !

Good Stuff
Really appreciate posting the photo


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squareroot
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Post Number: 44
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Posted on Tuesday, January 05, 2016 - 11:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I tried to focus in on the tag using PhotoShop.
The tag appears to say Model O, 3 HP.
Neat tag! Wish I'd taken a better pic of it.

Roberts tag
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richarddurgee
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Post Number: 3758
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Posted on Tuesday, January 05, 2016 - 01:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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E.W.Roberts established his own company in 1906 in Clyde Ohio, in 1908 he had moved to Sandusky.
This one page flyer is dated 1909 and shows the smaller Model H and the 3 Hp Model O engines.
The illustration is the same engine but now has the later style crankcase with mounts even with crankshaft, the engine must be 1908!


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