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Andrew Menkart
Board Administrator
Username: admin
Post Number: 12
Registered: 07-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2014 - 07:33 pm: | 
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We have a page with the poster and links to the registration forms posted here.
That show just gets better and better...
Thanks. |
Engine Silo
New member
Username: enginesilo
Post Number: 3
Registered: 07-2014
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2014 - 11:59 pm: |
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Excited to attend, this will be my first year going to the show and I am new to antique marine engines. Are engines typically for sale at the Mystic show in a swap/sell area? |
J.B. Castagnos
Senior Member
Username: jb_castagnos
Post Number: 940
Registered: 07-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, August 10, 2014 - 10:01 pm: |
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Trailers loaded, Jamie Hurry, Keith Felder, Jim Parrott, and I will be leaving Tuesday. Plans are to stop off at Kinzer, Pa Thursday, on to Mystic Friday. See y'all there. |
Robert B. Price
Senior Member
Username: rbprice
Post Number: 468
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Monday, August 18, 2014 - 08:48 pm: |
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Here are some pictures of Keith Billet's Murray&Tregurtha open crank engine
 
 
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Robert B. Price
Senior Member
Username: rbprice
Post Number: 469
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Monday, August 18, 2014 - 08:54 pm: |
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Here's another of Keath's engines
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Robert B. Price
Senior Member
Username: rbprice
Post Number: 470
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Monday, August 18, 2014 - 08:56 pm: |
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This is Bill Roe's barn fresh Universal Four 1920 and he got it to fire!
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Robert B. Price
Senior Member
Username: rbprice
Post Number: 471
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Monday, August 18, 2014 - 09:00 pm: |
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Here is a Van Blerk from some folks who drove all the way from Saginaw, MI
 
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Ernie
Senior Member
Username: ernie
Post Number: 1853
Registered: 01-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2014 - 08:06 am: |
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Mystic 2014 Pics in no particular order.
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Ernie
Senior Member
Username: ernie
Post Number: 1854
Registered: 01-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2014 - 08:10 am: |
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Ernie
Senior Member
Username: ernie
Post Number: 1856
Registered: 01-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2014 - 08:22 am: |
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Ernie
Senior Member
Username: ernie
Post Number: 1857
Registered: 01-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2014 - 08:49 am: |
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Morgan Pics
She now has mechanical spaces.
To take her sailing she needed:
Fire Control
Electrical
Navigation
Emergency lighting
And even a charging table for the crews electronics.
And lots more
To make all this happen she has a diesel generator, electric fire pumps, diesel back up fire pump and tons of electrical/electronics.
It sure was neat to walk her decks and think this now a real sailing ship again. Not just stuffed and mounted as a dispaly piece as she was for many years.
It is amazing how big she looked sitting in the shipyard and how tiny she is below decks.
Go to youtube and search Chharles W Morgan for some really incredible video.
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J.B. Castagnos
Senior Member
Username: jb_castagnos
Post Number: 942
Registered: 07-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2014 - 01:58 pm: |
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Thanks for posting Ernie, it was a great show. |
RichardDurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 3359
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2014 - 11:13 pm: |
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Ernie
Photos are appreciated !
This air cooled engine I can't quite read the
information sheet ??
J.B your display really looks great-- is that a new trailer ?
As for the C.W.Morgan- what a masterful piece of work, all of those sails and running gear reminds us that seamen and sailors had to be a different breed in those days !!
Good Stuff.
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Ernie
Senior Member
Username: ernie
Post Number: 1858
Registered: 01-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2014 - 07:12 am: |
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The air cooled engine is a Belle Isle
Sorry your missed the show |
Keith Felder
Member
Username: keith_felder
Post Number: 7
Registered: 06-2012
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2014 - 09:21 am: |
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The trailer is new, it features the Lockwood-Ash family. It had the, 1 1/2, 2 1/2, 5, 6, 12 HP L-A; 4, 4 HP Motorgos.; and2 1/2 and 4 HP Nadlers. It had 5 other non L-A marine inboard, with the 8 HP Union in the center. |
RichardDurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 3360
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2014 - 08:51 am: |
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Ernie
I have searched all of my info and cannot find any reference to Belle Isle making an air cooled marine engine ? Wondering if it has a tag or name in the castings etc ??
Keith
I can just imagine the people looking at your trailer and the array of beautiful engines as you drive across the country !
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Ernie
Senior Member
Username: ernie
Post Number: 1859
Registered: 01-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2014 - 12:05 pm: |
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Richard,
It has a tag and the castings are identical to the water cooled entgine.
That is the bottom of the crankcase obviously the rest are different. |
Ernie
Senior Member
Username: ernie
Post Number: 1860
Registered: 01-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2014 - 12:17 pm: |
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http://www.oldmarineengine.com/discus/messages/1/3035.html
It used to be mine and I no longer remember where or what the tag said.Seems to me it is on the side. |
Ernie
Senior Member
Username: ernie
Post Number: 1861
Registered: 01-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2014 - 01:52 pm: |
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I think the tag is on the side under the check valve |
RichardDurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 3362
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2014 - 06:27 pm: |
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Ernie
I appreciate the information, interesting that this air cooled engine got under my radar--- learn something every day !
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Jeff Kitzmiller
Member
Username: jeffk
Post Number: 12
Registered: 04-2009
| | Posted on Friday, August 29, 2014 - 11:33 am: |
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How many air cooled marine engines are out there? Mfgrs.? |
Ernie
Senior Member
Username: ernie
Post Number: 1863
Registered: 01-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, August 30, 2014 - 08:31 am: |
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If you take Briggs,Wisconsin, US Motors and the other little engine conversions off the list there aren't many |
Keith Felder
Member
Username: keith_felder
Post Number: 8
Registered: 06-2012
| | Posted on Saturday, August 30, 2014 - 09:58 am: |
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Ernie thanks for posting the show pictures, we all know that it takes time and you give us your time and I'm thankful to you for that. Richard yes, we got a lot of looks on our 3700+ mile trip from Louisiana. We also put a lot of time in to get our stuff ready. We got a new trailer and filled it with Lockwood-Ash, Motorgo and Nadler engines ( Lockwood-Ash Family), we also had Lockwood-Ash blue-prints, Lockwood-Ash and Motorgo manuels. We had 4 men to run the engines in 3 shows in 10 days. and best of all, we had J.B. that we let everybody borrow for a while. Thank all of you for a good, very good time, kf |
RichardDurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 3363
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, August 30, 2014 - 11:01 am: |
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As to how many mfgrs made air cooled marine engines there is no definitive answer, none of the major museums or others interested in marine engine history have ever endeavored to compile that information as far as I know !
In the mid 1980's I started a hand written list of marine engine mfgrs and in the 2000's entered into a Data base and its been a work in progress that continues.
Originally the search was for mfgrs names the next step was to try to get some sort of photo to match the names in the list, existing engs with tags or casted names or catalogs and ads in
boating and many other publications, some names were entered into the U.S patents and that shed a little more light. the next step came when trying to identify unknown engines and that was to enter physical traits or uniquenesses that was entered into a description of the engines so that a SEARCH would bring them up ! the descriptions were many and a common wordage had to be settled on to describe the differences exactly, with this attempt I had to go back over all engines many times to get them uniform this has been time consuming into thousands of hours over the years and still needs more work.
Today the little number at the bottom of the Data base says 1998 that's the number of listings and when I put "Air cooled" in the SEARCH 20 listings appear. I had never actually searched the topic before so I went though each and authenticated them as legitimate mfgrs, by the way
number 20 was just added two days ago with Ernies
help and the ID of the Belle Isle eng in the above posts !
So a quick asking of this question on line comes with an answer that definitely didn't come quickly and is probably very close to but not exact.
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B. Goss
Senior Member
Username: bgoss
Post Number: 218
Registered: 12-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, August 30, 2014 - 08:57 pm: |
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You're amazing Richard!
Thanks |
RichardDurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 3364
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, August 30, 2014 - 11:24 pm: |
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Just for fun I typed in some states to see how
many marine engine mfgrs up to 1940 ?
New York --- 324
Michigan --- 277
Canada ---- 135
Pennsylvania -- 99
Massachusetts -- 27
California -- 96
Connecticut -- 82
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