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greg wearing
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Username: kohuna

Post Number: 1
Registered: 01-2013
Posted on Thursday, January 03, 2013 - 11:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Greetings all. I've just become the new owner of a fibreglass/timber launch complete with what seems to be a Clae F6 with a simplex head.
Photo 1photo 2
It is free to turn & does seem to have some compression. Any, and I do mean any, info on what I've come across would be appreciated, starting procedure, clutch, fuel mix etc. Also, am I wasting my time with it as a reliable day to day engine.
Thanks in advance, Greg.
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Mark S
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Username: marks

Post Number: 146
Registered: 03-2002
Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 07:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Greg,

The F6 are good engines and perfectly reliable. I've had a couple as well as an F10 and they start easily and run well.

Just choke it, pull the flywheel over and it should start pretty much straight away providing it has an impulse magneto.

Don't use methanol blended fuel.Your probably safest with premium.

The only issue you may have is the exhaust valve sticking open after sitting for a while. You can either take off the inspection plate or use a bent tent peg through the spark plug hole to re-seat it.

Cheers,

Mark S.
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William Minehane
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Username: bmine

Post Number: 41
Registered: 10-2009
Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - 04:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Greg I am sending you some instructions for 6hp which i believe could very well be your F6 engine - I myself am also within this site with a Clae Bantam.

I have instructions also for the Clae Bantam engines.

Bill
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William Minehane
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Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - 04:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Greg sorry will try again tomorrow - pictures were too big

Bill
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William Minehane
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Username: bmine

Post Number: 43
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Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - 03:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

F6 instructions

Bill
application/octet-stream
img073.jpg Clae 6 (72.2 k)
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Eric Schulz
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Username: eric_schulz

Post Number: 76
Registered: 01-2007


Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - 05:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This engine raises a question or two. Because CLAE and Hardman & Hall were competing firms, it isn't likely that they collaborated. So, how is it that the Simplex head will fit a CLAE? The only answer I can come up with, apart from coincidence, is that they both copied the design of another engine.
The CLAE head was deeper than the Simplex, hence the excess stud length.
All very curious.

Eric
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William Minehane
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Post Number: 44
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Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - 09:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Greg still trying to get articles on the site
application/octet-streamClae 6
img073.jpg Clae 6 (72.2 k)
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William Minehane
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Username: bmine

Post Number: 45
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Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - 09:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Giving up Greg - have sent them to your mail address instead.

Bill
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Mark S
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Username: marks

Post Number: 147
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Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2013 - 03:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Eric,

They actually don't quite fit as the stud pattern is slightly different. So it's necessary to drill the head to suit one or the other.

Simplex will/did supply CLAE single heads with the correct drilling but and as far as I know they always ground the Simplex off the casting.

Perhaps somebody obtained a raw casting and drilled it themselves?

Cheers,

Mark S.
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Eric Schulz
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Post Number: 77
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Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2013 - 03:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for the info, Mark. Much appreciated.

Eric
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greg
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Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2013 - 08:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mark,Bill & Eric,

Thanks for taking the time to reply, special thanks for the brochure Bill, it's great, any idea of the year it was printed?
If anyones prepared to email me their phone number I'd appreciate the opportunity to speak direct.
Cheers & thanks again.
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William Minehane
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Username: bmine

Post Number: 46
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Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2013 - 09:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thank you Greg.

On the bottom of the specification page it gives the address of Clae at Balmain with a telephone number of WB 1441.

Research shows that Clae was at 6 School Street Balmain from 1940 to 1950.

The specification sheet I do believe along with information about my Clae Bantam came from"Cappers Motors" Distributors for Newcastle District.

Bill

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