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searcher
Senior Member
Username: searcher
Post Number: 534
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, August 26, 2012 - 12:54 am: | 
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Herrmann Engineering Co. apparently made small 4cyl engines that they could readily adapt as lighting plants for yachts and as inboard marine engines. Carson Motor Co. appears to have acquired Herrmann's engine business in 1915. I cannot find ads for Herrmann in the boating magazines that I have nor can I find much on the internet. One of the problems with trying to run the company down on the internet is spelling of the name. Herrmann is the correct spelling for that particular company but Hermann and Herrman seem to have gotten thrown into the mix leading to a huge number of unrelated hits. Can anyone fill in some of the history on Herrmann Engineering? |
richarddurgee
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Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 2888
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, August 26, 2012 - 01:24 pm: |
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I don't think anyone ever mentioned this Mfg here before and no photos of an actual engine made by Herrmann in my files ? This 1915 info is all thats listed in my list and by 1916 Were taken over by Carson Motor Co.
The "Small Aristocrat" was an easy enegine to ID(if one ever showed up) the dished shaped flywheel with elongated holes was unique to this litte 4 cylinder 4 cycle !
If any photos of a Herrmann or Carson engine please post !
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hmmjr
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Username: hmmjr
Post Number: 9
Registered: 09-2010
| | Posted on Monday, August 27, 2012 - 08:34 pm: |
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HERE ARE SOME PICS. OF a Herrmann Marine engine (Aristocrat)that I restored some time ago. It is uniqute in that the flywheel is mounted on the front of the engine. (like the C-3 Universal) and the trans. is mounted on the rear. Therefore you crank the flywheel in clockwise rotation. The engine is on display at the Red Wing Marine Museum, 935 Leeve Rd. Red Wing, MN. 800-634-9666    |
searcher
Senior Member
Username: searcher
Post Number: 535
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Monday, August 27, 2012 - 09:30 pm: |
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The Herrmann I have is a stationary. It is essentially the same engine as the marine version but was factory set up as a power unit for yacht lighting. At some point, the dynamo was separated from this engine and the engine reused as a power unit for other purposes. I will post a photo or two once I have the engine where I can get at it.
The flywheel on this one would have been backward as well (the flywheel was replaced by a heavy multibelt pully). As hmmjr noted, these engines are set up like the Universal and this one is setup very much like the 4 cyl Universal Type N on a fire pump I have. |
richarddurgee
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Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 2889
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Monday, August 27, 2012 - 10:20 pm: |
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Harry, Thanks for posting the photos !
Cool Marine Engine !
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searcher
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Username: searcher
Post Number: 539
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, December 22, 2012 - 01:46 am: |
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As Richard noted, Carson Motor Co. was successor to Herrmann Engineering Co. Carson published a catalog under its own name in 1916. The Carson catalog and engines appear to be identical to the Herrmann with the difference being in the name only.
This particular example is a Herrmann stationary engine used for yacht lighting. It came with a multibelt pully that mated up to a 3kw lighting plant. I wish it had the unusual flywheel of the Herrmann/Carson marine engines but the belt verion was one of the options. At some point, this engine was resurrected by locals and adapted to a wood sawing outfit.
This engine and the Carson catalog don't fit with my collection of old iron. I bought the engine only because I couldn't stand to see it go for scrap iron which would have been its fate when the estate was settled. It makes me sick to think of how much of this lovable old iron has been shipped to China as scrap and sent back here as rebar!
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richarddurgee
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Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 2951
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, December 22, 2012 - 11:30 am: |
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