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| Palmer P-60, M-60, IH-60 model year? |
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andrew
| | Posted on Friday, November 15, 2002 - 11:25 am: | 
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Bob Jacques from Wyoming called wondering what year his Palmer IH-60 engine is. I see that Dick Day wrote that Palmer abandoned the "last two digits are the year of mfg" code at some point and then reestablished it again.
Bob' nameplate contains:
Palmer IH-60
3710657
What year is his engine? Is it 1957 ???
Thanks.
Andrew |
Richard Day
| | Posted on Friday, November 15, 2002 - 04:27 pm: |
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I say its 1957. The serial number fits into the series for the period 1956-1960. The engine came out in 1955. I would like to add it to the annual listing of known Palmer engines. I wonder if it has the early Cub tractor flywheel or the later Palmer made marine flywheel. It is about 3 inches thick at the rim whereas the tractor flywheel was about 1-1/2" thick at the flywheel rim. Bob if you want me to add your engine to the annual listing please send me and e-mail with name address and and telephone number. There is no charge and the listing only goes to Palmer collectors and marine museums. I don't put it on the internet. Photo if you have it would be helpful in further identification of which model water pump and starter, generator ect you have. |
Bob
| | Posted on Thursday, January 16, 2003 - 10:40 pm: |
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I have what I believe is a Palmer p-60 inboard on an Islander 30 sailboat.
There appears to be leakage from the head of the salt water used for cooling.
Since the boat is a 1972, I am assuming the engine is of the same age.
Is there anyone who still deals with htese engines from a rebuild, spare part angle? Or alternatively, can the head be "patched" in any way.
My oil appears to be free of water, but I do notice some light rusting on the upper extremes of the dip stick, that may be the begining of the end.
I would appreciate any kind of information I could get on this engine, and where, how I might get some knowledgeable person to help me.
I am located in Southern California.
Thanks
Bob |
andrew
| | Posted on Friday, January 17, 2003 - 11:44 am: |
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Bob,
The Palmer P-60 is the same as the Palmer M-60. They were both based on the International Harvester IH-60 block.
Most parts are available from aftermarket manufacturers or from International Harvester. I believe that heads are available from IH. Your head might be repairable.... there have been numberous discussions on this board about various methods of cast iron repair... epoxy, JB Weld, welding, etc. You can browse the board or use the "keyword search" link on the left.
The parts that are most difficult to find are the exhaust manifold and a marine gasket set. There is no aftermarket manufacturer of the manifolds. Your choices are to try to find a used one in good condition (almost impossible), or to have one fabricated (expensive).
We sell a composite manual for the P-60 which includes, Palmer operators and parts with the IH-Cub Tractor engine overhaul section (the IH-Cub tractor used the IH-60 block also). Click on the following: Palmer Manual.
Regards,
Andrew |
Richard Day
| | Posted on Friday, January 17, 2003 - 07:53 pm: |
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Don't waste time trying to repair the head just go to a junk tractor or Navistar dealer and get a used one for the IH CUB tractor. You can also get one from Central Tractor. If you rebuild the engine get a used cub tractor block and have it rebuilt using the marine crankshaft from your engine. Save all the marine trim and it will bolt right up to the tractor block. If you fresh water cool use a new tractor head gasket. The gaskets for the tractor fit your engine. Make sure you have a good marine exhaust manifold before you start rebuilding as they are impossible to find |
curtis montelius
Visitor
| | Posted on Monday, December 03, 2007 - 03:54 pm: |
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Hey guys I have a yorktown 33.5 with a palmer p-60 she still runs but I would like to have rebuilt she leaks oil into the bilge, I'm trying to find someone in So. Cal thanks
curtis |
Eddie Ross
Senior Member
Username: eddie
Post Number: 205
Registered: 04-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 03:18 pm: |
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Are you leaking oil from the shaft seals? What weight/viscosity crankcase oil are you using? |
Richard A. Day Jr.
Senior Member
Username: richardday
Post Number: 544
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 12:56 pm: |
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If the oil leak is from the reverse gear it is simple to replace the seal without removing the engine from the boat. Pump out the oil in the reverse gear. Slide the prop shaft coupling aft. Remove the hex nut holding the flange to the reverse gear shaft. Don't lose the lock washer with tab which holds the hex nut to the reverse gear shaft. remove the flange simply by pulling it out of the reverse gear. Take out the four cap screws holding the shaft seal flange. Pull the seal flange aft and press out the old seal. Go to any bearing and seal dealer with the old seal and and they will be able to replace it. Don't mess up the numbers on the seal as they will need them to match up a suitable replacement. Don't talk Palmer. You just want a replacement seal. Press in the new seal and reverse the removal process and you have solved the leak. Make sure you put enough SAE 30 non detergent oil in the reverse gear to bring the oil level up to within about an inch of the shaft at the aft end of the reverse gear. The crankcase oil does not share the oil in the reverse gear.
The forward seal requires the removal of the flywheel and the shaft seal from the crankshaft. Whether you can pull the old seal in the boat depends on access. Again its seal can be obtained at any bearing and seal dealer. Don't talk Palmer. |
tim kachmarzinski
Visitor
| | Posted on Thursday, August 09, 2012 - 06:43 pm: |
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anyone looking for a palmer orange engine.had it running last year. 218 750 2309 |
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