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richarddurgee
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Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 2843
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, June 02, 2012 - 08:28 pm: | 
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Ernie Have you found mfgrs name to this engine ?
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ernie
Senior Member
Username: ernie
Post Number: 1500
Registered: 01-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, June 03, 2012 - 01:22 pm: |
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Not yet
Pretty sure the threads are witworth
At least they aren't us or metric
Here it is running
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxtKzz6CvCw |
richarddurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 2844
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, June 03, 2012 - 02:51 pm: |
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This Little Engine was only advertised for about three consecutive summer months of 1911, the engine illustration I believe only appeared once
in June 1911.
1911
1911
If you look for history on this company there really isn't any, stans books says look to Pausing that bought them but that was 1916, Arrow was mfging engs for at least 5 yrs prior to that and they made 7 different models of engines your "Junior" is just one !
Trying to discover these engines is what got me to an archive site that had this ad.
When we find these engines many of our unknowns will get a name ?
For right now you have the only known Arrow pre copper top era that I know of-- COOL !
1911 This article I found several yrs ago is what has me searching for them !
Any information on early Arrow would be appreciated !
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ernie
Senior Member
Username: ernie
Post Number: 1501
Registered: 01-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, June 03, 2012 - 03:43 pm: |
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Neat thanks!
If you want more pics let me know
Ernie |
richarddurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 2845
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, June 03, 2012 - 04:24 pm: |
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The photos I have of the engine are a little
blurred if you have some better ones I would appreciate them- its a one of a kind so far with
a name now,over 100 yrs old, it runs, it deserves a photo of distinction !
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bruce
Senior Member
Username: bruce
Post Number: 303
Registered: 07-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, June 03, 2012 - 04:31 pm: |
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No relation to the Buffalo Arrow I presume? |
ernie
Senior Member
Username: ernie
Post Number: 1502
Registered: 01-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, June 03, 2012 - 05:35 pm: |
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I updated the Youtube vid
Thanks |
richarddurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 2846
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, June 03, 2012 - 10:18 pm: |
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Bruce, I searched so many "Arrows" trying to link an individual by that name to this Co.I had to install a quiver on my computer ! several prominent names in the autombile industry in Detroit around this 1900-1910 era, but I still can't find where the name Arrow in this mfgrs name came from ?
In Buffalo you had Buffalo Arrow engs mfgrd by Buffalo Auto Truck and Motor Company- where does the Arrow come from ? Also Pierce- Arrow owned and mfgrd by George N. Pierce Company, his first car 1904 was called ARROW ??? Both these Buffalo Co's made marine engines -- I still haven't sorted it out ??
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robert
Senior Member
Username: robert
Post Number: 480
Registered: 07-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, June 07, 2012 - 02:22 am: |
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You can definitely see the lack of "vibration of any kind"! ;-) |
ernie
Senior Member
Username: ernie
Post Number: 1509
Registered: 01-2002
| | Posted on Monday, June 25, 2012 - 07:31 pm: |
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More Pics
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paulgray
Senior Member
Username: paulgray
Post Number: 126
Registered: 05-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 - 12:05 pm: |
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Cute carby on that one!! |
ernie
Senior Member
Username: ernie
Post Number: 1511
Registered: 01-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 - 08:20 pm: |
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There is another one of these carbs out there somewhere. I had 2 of them at one time. I can only find one now.
Detective Durgee another name for you to dig up info on.
Loomis Autocar Co.
Westfield Mass
The link and what apears to be a throttle plate is actually a variable venturi. The piece under the link that looks like a screw is actually the fuel jet. As you open or close the throttle the venturi gets bigger or smaller. The throttle control lever actually operates the venturi and the link rod goes to the throttle plate,
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ernie
Senior Member
Username: ernie
Post Number: 1512
Registered: 01-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 - 08:27 pm: |
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Quick search on the web found this from Early American Automobiles 1901 models
1901 Loomis Runabout
Loomis Auto Car Co. Westfield, MA
1901-1904 |
robert
Senior Member
Username: robert
Post Number: 482
Registered: 07-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 - 09:38 pm: |
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Saw this:
Loomis (1896-1904)
Gilbert J. Loomis, Westfield, MA 1896-1897
Loomis Automobile Co. Westfield, MA 1901-1903
Loomis Auto Car Co. Westfield, MA 1903-1904
As little as one year!
Given the long shaft, could this motor perhaps be from one of those early light cars like the one in Ernie's photo? |
richarddurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 2867
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 - 09:56 pm: |
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These are 1909 that were on file, I'll see if I can find any older ads !
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richarddurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 2868
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 - 10:06 pm: |
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old post here may have some info
http://www.oldmarineengine.com/discus/messages/3433/91811.html
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kkinney
Member
Username: kkinney
Post Number: 24
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 - 10:35 pm: |
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Here is another engine with a Loomis carburetor. I have the engine listed as maker unknown but we now believe it is an "Eclipse" engine.
http://herculesengines.com/marine/unidentifiedmarineengine.htm
Keith |
richarddurgee
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Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 2869
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 - 11:04 pm: |
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Keith
Here is your engine advertised in 1905
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richarddurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 2871
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 27, 2012 - 12:37 am: |
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Bill G in Louisiana has this engine that has
lever timer and water/pump like your unknown
I'll look for a later model, headless with conventional crankcase.
These engs made 1901 to 1911 when Taken into Traverse City Iron Works, Traverse City, Michigan.
Traverse City did continue to mfgr the engines.
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ernie
Senior Member
Username: ernie
Post Number: 1513
Registered: 01-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 27, 2012 - 08:14 am: |
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The carb isn't from the engine. I just thought it looked good on it and I was too lazy to take all the carb pics and copy them the carb and mixer page.
Not sure why the long shaft but it is in the add too. Maybe so it could be easily modified to go in other things... |
cwilco
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| | Posted on Monday, September 10, 2012 - 11:19 pm: |
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recently came across this old engine being used to run a goulds pump..no name or tag anywhere on the engine..anyone ever seen one or know anything about it??  |
