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richarddurgee
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Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 2715
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2012 - 08:39 pm: | 
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Searching for info on Paul Gray's cool old Castelnau engine I came across several photo ads on engines other than ones Mfgrd in North America.
These are a few from the United Kingdom !
I'll scan and post as time allows !
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richarddurgee
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Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 2716
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2012 - 08:49 pm: |
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Beardmore Marine Engine 1911
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richarddurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 2717
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2012 - 08:57 pm: |
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Forth Marine Engine 1911
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richarddurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 2718
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2012 - 09:07 pm: |
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Kelvin Marine Motor 1911
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richarddurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 2719
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2012 - 09:16 pm: |
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Drummond Engine Lathe 1911
Just seeing if anyone is paying attention ??
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richarddurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 2720
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2012 - 09:30 pm: |
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Crossley Marine Engine 1911
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richarddurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 2721
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2012 - 09:32 pm: |
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Ajax Marine Motor 1911
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kerrigan
Advanced Member
Username: kerrigan
Post Number: 42
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2012 - 10:48 pm: |
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Did the Brits produce engines fueled with lime juice? |
qwilkin
Senior Member
Username: qwilkin
Post Number: 52
Registered: 08-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2012 - 11:01 pm: |
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My GRanfather and brother were engineers at Elliot and Garoods in East Anglia anyopne have any history on this motor boat and marine engine comapny
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richarddurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 2722
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Friday, January 13, 2012 - 04:48 am: |
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Kerrigan
Seems the "Limeys" ran on Lime juice ??
As it turns out, the term "limey" originally applied to British sailors. In the 17th and 18th centuries, sailors suffered terribly from scurvy, a condition caused by a lack of vitamin C. Vitamin C comes mainly from fresh fruits and vegetables, but these foods aren't exactly easy to come by when you're at sea for months at a time.
So the Royal Navy prescribed lime juice for all sailors to help ward off scurvy -- hence the appellation "limeys." As often happens, the term eventually lost its original context and was applied to all British, whether sailors or landlubbers.
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richarddurgee
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Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 2723
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Friday, January 13, 2012 - 05:01 am: |
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Quinton
They may have only mfgrd Steam Engs ?
Reputed to be the last engine made by Elliott and Garrood in Beccles, Suffolk (famed for their engines which once powered a high proportion of the herring fishery fleet) this little treasure has recently been brought back to life and is providing feedwater for the boiler plant.
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paulgray
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Username: paulgray
Post Number: 112
Registered: 05-2003
| | Posted on Friday, January 13, 2012 - 09:09 pm: |
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Here is a larger 4 cylinder Castelnau from Noel in France.  |
paulgray
Senior Member
Username: paulgray
Post Number: 113
Registered: 05-2003
| | Posted on Friday, January 13, 2012 - 09:12 pm: |
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And another one from 1923. These are big motors! Rich- Thanks for the cool foreign engines! |
senojn
Senior Member
Username: senojn
Post Number: 90
Registered: 08-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, January 14, 2012 - 02:06 am: |
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Richard ,I was paying so much attention to the Drummond I ended up in a lather . |
dave_carter
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Username: dave_carter
Post Number: 14
Registered: 08-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, January 14, 2012 - 03:40 pm: |
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From a 1914 Boulton and Paul brochure....
a four cylinder
and a six cylinder...
and in real life with polished brass rocker cover...
and a 42hp six cylinder
and a single...
Regards,Dave Carter.
(A Limey landlubber!!!) |
qwilkin
Senior Member
Username: qwilkin
Post Number: 53
Registered: 08-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, January 15, 2012 - 04:19 am: |
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Richard Durgee, many thanks for the information on Elliot and Garood are there any books on the history of the company, I spent many happy childhood days in Beccles and my grand father J Q Wilkinson was mayor and also Station master
I live in australia now and have a 18ft wooden boat with a BLAXLAND TWIN in it, hence the interest in old baost and engines
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richarddurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 2728
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, January 15, 2012 - 07:05 am: |
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Dave, Thanks for the photos !
The 6 cylinder 42 Hp looks great with all the brass, wondering if the magneto is a Lucas ?haven't seen one like it before.
The single seems to have a cooling condenser that we are familiar with used on many of our Detroit mfgrd engines , the original patent and original engine from 1905 !
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richarddurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 2729
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, January 15, 2012 - 07:26 am: |
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Quinton
There is a lot of info on line about ELLIOTT & GARROOD, found this summary on Google!
I would really like to have a small steam capstan in my collection !
from the Official Beccles Guide c 1972The engineering firm of ELLIOTT & GARROOD LTD. at Gosford Road, celebrated its centenary in 1968 and was pleased to
present a diving stage to the town swimming pool in recognition of its long and close association with the local community.
Elliott & Garrood Ltd. in its early days made stationary power plants followed by power-driven machinery for the fishing
industry. A new patent steam capstan was introduced in 1884 and within three years a range of five sizes were in production. In
the early 1890’s a steam-driven road vehicle was constructed with a twin cylinder engine developing about 5 h.p. Although
quite successful, increased activity on the marine side of the business took priority and no further development work was
introduced on road vehicles. By the middle of the 1890s the company had designed and developed main propulsion machinery
and in 1897 the Consolation was the first drifter to be fully equipped with F & G machinery.
After some years of producing marine engines, the company concentrated on marine deck equipment and products included
trawl, winches, seine winches and rope coilers, line haulers, donkey pumps, electrohydraulically driven capstans, marine
research instruments and special winches for research vessels.
A few years ago the firm, which was acquired by Dobson Park Industires in 1970, discontinued the manufacture of marine
deck equipment with the exception of the Beccles rope coilers, used for seine net fishing throughout the world, and now the
company’s main valve products enjoy a high reputation.
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dave_carter
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Username: dave_carter
Post Number: 15
Registered: 08-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, January 15, 2012 - 02:19 pm: |
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The mag on the six cylinder is a Bosch.
In order to date the mag I looked for serial numbers around it's base, but it was covered in thick black paint. As the engine is on display in the foyer of a boat hire company, scraping paint off was certainly not an option.
Regards,
Dave Carter. |
dave_carter
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Username: dave_carter
Post Number: 16
Registered: 08-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, January 15, 2012 - 02:50 pm: |
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As for the single cylinder, there are quite a few similarities to T & M engines, and have often wondered if it may have been "badge engineered" or built under licence.
Regards,
Dave carter. |
todd_vidgen
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Username: todd_vidgen
Post Number: 217
Registered: 03-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, January 15, 2012 - 09:33 pm: |
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The one on the 4 cyl is a lucas SR series |
dave_carter
Member
Username: dave_carter
Post Number: 17
Registered: 08-2005
| | Posted on Monday, January 16, 2012 - 04:38 pm: |
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The SR4 is not quite what it seems..
http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2361608700102508460lrjDSJ?vhost=good-times
...see text below, and other pictures of the launch either side. |
