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Phil Gemeinhardt
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Username: philg

Post Number: 52
Registered: 02-2008
Posted on Monday, December 05, 2011 - 04:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)





Hi Everyone, I have tracked down this engine - but have had no luck in identifing it. Can anyone out there identify it or tell me anything about this engine!

Thanks Phil
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RichardDurgee
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Post Number: 2695
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2011 - 05:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Phil

A variable pitch prop and shaft on the side and an anvil underneath - What a find !

Mfgrd about 1913 by "The Vim Motor Mfg Co. Sandusky,Ohio.

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RichardDurgee
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Post Number: 2696
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Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2011 - 06:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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1913


V13

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B. Goss
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Post Number: 169
Registered: 12-2007
Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2011 - 12:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The ad above boasts 'double ignition'. Is there a spot to mount a mag in there somewhere? Or were they just running wires to separate plugs from a single contact?

Is the pump connection to the exhaust manifold just a brace or a water passage?

Nice engine Phil.
Blair
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Phil Gemeinhardt
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Username: philg

Post Number: 53
Registered: 02-2008
Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2011 - 10:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Richard and Blair, thanks for the responses. Richard the ad you posted is very interesting - stating some of the engines are "eight or nine years old": do we know what years this company was in business?

Blair, I haven't managed to purchase this engine, yet, and the pictures I took were done in the rain so I am not sure about the wiring or the water passage - though it would seem the wrong way to pump water.

Phil
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RichardDurgee
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Post Number: 2699
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2011 - 05:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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In 1905 C.P.Barber brought to the market his own designed marine engines, trade named "VIM",I have not been able yet to link him with the Barber Bros of New York or any other engine mfgr but the sophistication of his engs tell me he had very good experience before 1905.The 45 degree swept back exhausts, anti backfire method, hand valve controlled water cooling to cylinders etc are exceptional !
In 1906 Barber sold the Co. and it became the Vim Motor Manufacturing Co., he stayed on as gen manager for a year and then disappeared from view.
The company mfgrd engs in early 1916 but took large munitions contracts heading into WWI and complications with stockholders over the military involvment ceased their operations, the buildings were sold in 1921 to a piston mfging Company.
Vim mfgrd three styles of marine engs, high speed, medium and slow, all high speed had the swept back dry exhausts and so few of the others have been seen that I am not sure of their differences. slow eng was 450 rpm if stated on the tag.
1912-1913 engs like the one in photos at top of this posting went to a wet exhaust and the pipe from the waterpump feeds water into manifold then to cylinders and also recieves the return back into the manifold in different chambers.
Dual Ignition was available by request and a magneto was mounted - how, I don't know haven't seen one or a catalog page yet ?

1.C.P Barber Co. 1905 catalog page- note poem

CPB05cat

2.1905 Barber vim with swept exhaust and water inlet hand controls.

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3.1907 Vim engine with Brass cooling jackets and hand wheel adjusted water intake valves.

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4. 45 degree swept back exhaust

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5.Antibackfire

anti

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