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Chip
Visitor
| | Posted on Thursday, November 17, 2005 - 11:00 pm: | 
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What is the appropriate timing for spark on a Palmer P-60 (eg. 2 degrees before TDC)? |
Eddie Ross
Senior Member
Username: eddie
Post Number: 86
Registered: 04-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, November 17, 2005 - 11:15 pm: |
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Timing of the ignition is done by bringing #1 piston (forward cylinder) to top dead center on the compression stroke. Be sure the rotor is in line with the #1 contact on distributor cap |
Chip
Visitor
| | Posted on Thursday, November 17, 2005 - 11:18 pm: |
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Thanks Eddie. I found the following info with regard to IH Cub Lo-Boy. Seems like this is inline with the suggestion. Am I correlating the info correctly to say that spark should be dead-on TDC?
Make Model Point Gap Spark Plug Gap Timing Mark On Spark Occurs Firing Order Int. Valve Clearance Exh. Valve Clearance Comments
Farmall/IH 154 Lo-Boy, Cub Lo-Boy, Farmall Cub .020 .023 FP TDC 1-3-4-2 .013C .013C For IHC magneto set points to .013, Wico magneto set to .015 - Int & Exh valve clearance for 154 Lo-Boy set to .015
http://www.antiquetractors.com/Research/tuneup.htm |
Richard A. Day Jr.
Senior Member
Username: richardday
Post Number: 482
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Friday, November 18, 2005 - 08:44 pm: |
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Pull number one cylinder (the one next to the flywheel) up on TDC. Note Chisel marks on face of flywheel shroud and top rim or face of flyheel. Flywheel turns counter clockwise facing it. Distributor turns clockwise facing it. Loosen cap screw locking distributor angular rotation. Rotate so points just start to open at TDC. Lock cap screw. Note position of distributor rotor. This is number one spark plug tower in distributor cap. Firing order is 1,3,4,2. Point gap is .018 to .020 Spark advance is automatic in the distributor. |
Karl Burton
Visitor
| | Posted on Monday, November 21, 2005 - 09:21 pm: |
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If you are having odd timing issues - remember that the technique above gives static timing. Spark advance is "automatic" - unless the centrifugal advance mechanism is all rusted up and frozen, and it doesn't take all that much rust to freeze it, or at least make it sluggish and ineffective.
Pull the distributor, take out the base plate (the thing the points and condenser attach to) and you'll see the advance mechanism underneath it. |
Richard A. Day Jr.
Senior Member
Username: richardday
Post Number: 487
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - 09:51 am: |
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Seems to me an el-cheapo neon timing light is a better way to go as you can easily check the spark advance without tearing into the distributor and you get a dynamic read out just by watching the advance operate when you speed up the engine. |
Richard Shapiro
New member
Username: mainesails
Post Number: 2
Registered: 09-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - 08:48 pm: |
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That's what I use. It's really quick and easy. I can see the timing advance as I blip the throttle off idle. Not only that, but the flash makes the chisel cut on the flywheel easily visible.
Rich |
williamjchampion
Visitor
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 07:30 pm: |
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Add a little "white out" to the timing mark on the flywheel and it will be easier to see with the timing light. I had problems with my P-60 a couple of years ago with stalling under load. The engine idled great and would rev with no problems, but once it went into gear - it wanted to die. Turns out the springs in the distributor spark advance were shot. |
Gregory Coats
New member
Username: gregorycoats
Post Number: 2
Registered: 04-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, July 07, 2007 - 09:31 am: |
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Anyone know what the timing should be on a Palmer M60, I installed electronic ignition and now need to set the timing. [email protected] |
Richard Shapiro
Advanced Member
Username: mainesails
Post Number: 42
Registered: 09-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, July 07, 2007 - 10:31 am: |
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I'm assuming that you found the chisel cuts on the block and the flywheel (they are small and near the oil filter housing on my engine). These cuts mark TDC.
If you have the engine running, I'd use a timing light, and set the strobe to TDC at idle. You can then rev the engine to make sure that the spark advance is working properly.
If the engine is not running, the earlier posts on this thread have all the specifics.
If you can't make head or tail of the posts, write back to the list and we can go through it. |
Lee Ann Kelly
New member
Username: lkelly
Post Number: 1
Registered: 06-2011
| | Posted on Monday, June 20, 2011 - 06:52 pm: |
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upgraded to a pertronix electronic ing having trouble with starting any ideas |
kevin stone
Advanced Member
Username: kdstone
Post Number: 41
Registered: 01-2009
| | Posted on Monday, June 20, 2011 - 10:25 pm: |
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I have electronic ignition on our Palmer. A few more details on your issues would help. How was it running before, and what is it doing when you try to start now? |
Philip North
New member
Username: oceantraveller2020
Post Number: 1
Registered: 09-2020
| | Posted on Thursday, October 01, 2020 - 12:49 am: |
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I just installed the Pertronix Flamethrower and 1548 electronic ignition kit on my Palmer P-60 (Coronado 35 Ketch) Easy peasy. Got the coil on Amazon and the electronic ignition kit on EBay. There were some ignition issues like huge electrical arcs from the coil tower to anything metallic that was close to it, including distributor mount and the coil�s negative and positive contacts. I put conductive grease on all the metal parts that should have electricity going to them, from the coil to the spark plugs. No more arcing. It�s still not starting, but now I have spark and tomorrow I�ll work on some of the other issues that might be affecting it.
I�ll let you know how it goes. |
