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Hakan Pettersson
Member
Username: hugger69
Post Number: 4
Registered: 10-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 12:50 pm: | 
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I know from reading here that the starter is not the big problem!
As I see it the issue is how to you get a 12V generator with the shaft for the water pump??
To remake the 6V generator seems to be very expensive, at least here in Sweden! I would cost over $ 900 !! |
Jim Staib
Senior Member
Username: drrot
Post Number: 66
Registered: 09-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 13, 2010 - 07:16 am: |
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I would check another source. $900 is 4 times the cost here in the US. |
Hakan Pettersson
Member
Username: hugger69
Post Number: 5
Registered: 10-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 13, 2010 - 04:02 pm: |
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OK, but you don¨t have any tip regarding any exchange generator? |
kim hartshorn
Member
Username: kimhartshorn
Post Number: 13
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 13, 2010 - 04:34 pm: |
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Gray Marine used 12V generators in the 'shaft driven water pump' configuration after 1954 or so. You should be able to find used ones online. You would still probably want to have it rebuilt however. |
thomas johnson
Member
Username: capt_tom
Post Number: 6
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 13, 2010 - 05:38 pm: |
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my 1956 is shaft driven water pump through the grn. and is 6 volt, so when you find all the ans. along with changing from pos. grd to a nrg. grd. let me know. the last est. I got here in Fl. was around 1000 dollors. |
Hakan Pettersson
Member
Username: hugger69
Post Number: 6
Registered: 10-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, October 14, 2010 - 08:56 am: |
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Is my 6V generator a postive ground system??? |
miro forest
Senior Member
Username: miro
Post Number: 498
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Friday, October 15, 2010 - 09:36 pm: |
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I have to tell you from past experience, that many people who convert from 6V to 12V regret that so-called upgrade.
For example re-winding the 6V generator to make 12V means that you'll only get half of the output current compared to the 6V output because the generators are rated on output power ( i.e. Volts x Amps)
But you are correct, using 12V on a 6 V starter is OK.
I've been using a configuration of two 6V batteries so that I get 12V to the starter yet have everything else running on 6V. That way the engine stays original but it is easier to start.
I posted that configuration a couple of years ago - I'll see if I can get the link for you.
miro |
miro forest
Senior Member
Username: miro
Post Number: 499
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Friday, October 15, 2010 - 09:39 pm: |
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Here's the link
http://www.oldmarineengine.com/technical/miro_12volt.pdf |
Hakan Pettersson
Member
Username: hugger69
Post Number: 7
Registered: 10-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, October 16, 2010 - 04:14 am: |
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Thanx Miro for your answer, I ´ll check that link!  |
Hakan Pettersson
Member
Username: hugger69
Post Number: 8
Registered: 10-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, October 16, 2010 - 04:19 am: |
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...but another quest popped up, how to you get 6V light bulbs and a bilge pump?? |
Jim Staib
Senior Member
Username: drrot
Post Number: 67
Registered: 09-2008
| | Posted on Monday, October 18, 2010 - 07:51 am: |
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6V light bulbs can be had from antique car sources. The only place I found that makes 6V bilge pumps is Lovett. They are hard to find. www.classicboatconnection.com usually has them |
Nelson Mccall
Member
Username: sea_scout
Post Number: 5
Registered: 09-2010
| | Posted on Sunday, January 23, 2011 - 09:08 pm: |
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Just had an AC 4111 (1934 Gray 4 cycl) rebuilt by "Indian Frank" all Total rebuild, new everything. All I had was an emplty case. It is a work of art. Worth contacting [email protected] |
Hakan Pettersson
Member
Username: hugger69
Post Number: 15
Registered: 10-2010
| | Posted on Monday, January 24, 2011 - 02:30 am: |
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Great Nelson!
Cost? |
Nelson Mccall
Member
Username: sea_scout
Post Number: 6
Registered: 09-2010
| | Posted on Monday, January 24, 2011 - 11:55 pm: |
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Hakan, Total cost was just alittle over $500, but remember all I had was a rusty case. No end plates or internal parts. Frank made everything new. I had spent months looking for a replacement or someone who could rebuild it. Got alot of " I will try anf find parts" with no promises and $400 ESTIMATES. Frank said: No problem, I can make the parts. I am extremely happy with the results. |
Hakan Pettersson
Member
Username: hugger69
Post Number: 16
Registered: 10-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 25, 2011 - 03:29 am: |
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Interesting!
I wonder how much it would cost with freight from Sweden to US and back?
...or is it possible to know what he actually did do get it working?? |
Jim Staib
Senior Member
Username: drrot
Post Number: 71
Registered: 09-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 25, 2011 - 07:06 am: |
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Hakan,
What is the part number on your generator? Or can you post a photo. |
Hakan Pettersson
Member
Username: hugger69
Post Number: 17
Registered: 10-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 25, 2011 - 08:07 am: |
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I´ll we do that tonight!
How do I post a pic?? Here is a link for my lates engine! Yes, I now have 2 Gray Marine Phantom Four-75!!
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h193/hugger69/Boghammar/GrayII006.jpg |
Jim Staib
Senior Member
Username: drrot
Post Number: 72
Registered: 09-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 25, 2011 - 08:21 am: |
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Might be easiest to get the part number off the generator. I'll look to see if I can find one here cheaper than shipping yours from Sweden. |
Hakan Pettersson
Member
Username: hugger69
Post Number: 18
Registered: 10-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 25, 2011 - 08:55 am: |
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Yes, that good be an idea to try!
I´ll get back later tonight! |
Hakan Pettersson
Member
Username: hugger69
Post Number: 19
Registered: 10-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 25, 2011 - 03:18 pm: |
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I just checked the generator and this are the figures:
Auto-Lite
GFA 4802-2 11F
The starter has this numbers on it:
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MZ 4045 5F
Can you tell anything from this? |
Jim Staib
Senior Member
Username: drrot
Post Number: 73
Registered: 09-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 25, 2011 - 04:55 pm: |
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Hakan,
I found one. Give me a couple days and I will run it to the Electric shop a couple towns over and see if they can convert it. |
Hakan Pettersson
Member
Username: hugger69
Post Number: 20
Registered: 10-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, January 27, 2011 - 02:28 am: |
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Wow Jim, you´re fast!
I´ll hope it will work out right then!
I´ve parts for my 69 Camaro that will be shipped to my town in Sweden from California Shipping, Stanton! Could that be easier for you in that case to ship it to Stanton? |
Jim Staib
Senior Member
Username: drrot
Post Number: 74
Registered: 09-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2011 - 08:34 am: |
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Hakan,
I dropped it off Friday. They will open it up and let me know if the parts can be had next week. |
Hakan Pettersson
Member
Username: hugger69
Post Number: 21
Registered: 10-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2011 - 04:50 pm: |
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Wow, great! Did you get a price indication? |
Hakan Pettersson
Member
Username: hugger69
Post Number: 24
Registered: 10-2010
| | Posted on Friday, February 04, 2011 - 04:45 am: |
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Jim, have you heard anything moore regarding the generator? |
Jim Staib
Senior Member
Username: drrot
Post Number: 75
Registered: 09-2008
| | Posted on Friday, February 04, 2011 - 05:06 am: |
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Hakan,
I'll check today. We had 2 feet of snow this week and it pretty much stopped everything. |
Hakan Pettersson
Member
Username: hugger69
Post Number: 25
Registered: 10-2010
| | Posted on Friday, February 04, 2011 - 05:27 am: |
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Wow, that´s a lot of snow for you!
For us that´s like normal!  |
Jim Staib
Senior Member
Username: drrot
Post Number: 76
Registered: 09-2008
| | Posted on Friday, February 04, 2011 - 09:40 am: |
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Hakan,
I can get it done. Sent you an email with details.
JIM |
Hakan Pettersson
Member
Username: hugger69
Post Number: 26
Registered: 10-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, February 05, 2011 - 01:01 pm: |
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Thanx! I just sent you an answer!  |
Vincent charles Flood
New member
Username: mein99207
Post Number: 1
Registered: 08-2020
| | Posted on Monday, August 10, 2020 - 03:09 pm: |
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what was the outcome? i just purchased a boat with the phantom four-75 and im looking to convert to 12v |
