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morris cooper
Visitor
| | Posted on Monday, November 20, 2006 - 05:24 am: | 
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Does anybody has any information about Drofin 12 m - Renault 16 RC engine? |
kiwiaussie
New member
Username: kiwiaussie
Post Number: 1
Registered: 12-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 05, 2006 - 02:19 am: |
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Hi morris, I have an overhaul manual and parts manual. I would be more than happy to send u a copy. |
Francesco
Visitor
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 10:18 pm: |
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Hi, I am interested in the manuals too...can you please send me a copy? my e-mail is [email protected] Thank you very much.
Francesco |
hohepa
Visitor
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 - 02:37 pm: |
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Hi i to am interested in the manuals too.
Can you send me a copy too my email address is
[email protected] |
harish
Visitor
| | Posted on Thursday, November 01, 2007 - 01:32 am: |
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Hi i to am interested in the manuals too.
Can you send me a copy too my email address is
[email protected] |
lincpike
New member
Username: lincpike
Post Number: 1
Registered: 11-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 07:04 pm: |
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all i am after is the dimentions of a drofin to get my engine box ready. can anyone help? |
tbfrance
New member
Username: tbfrance
Post Number: 1
Registered: 12-2007
| | Posted on Monday, December 03, 2007 - 09:09 am: |
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New parts gaskets liners pistons rings camshafts etc for the Drofin or RC16D engine
www.renaultcouach.com |
KiwiGuy
Visitor
| | Posted on Monday, December 01, 2008 - 01:58 pm: |
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kiwiaussie: You have the wrong email address for yourself. Don't bother emailing him because instead you'll reach me, and I know 3/8 of sweet f.a. about engines 
Hopefully for you folks looking for your manuals, kiwiaussie will come back 2 years later and look at these boards.
KiwiGuy |
Geoff Kirwood
Visitor
| | Posted on Sunday, March 08, 2009 - 09:55 pm: |
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In case anyone else suffers the same loss of power, check for wheeze at the diesel bleed point. The outlet valve of the fuel pump is a dumb design, pressure pushes the seat out of its recess. Thinking about araldite-ing it in place, wait&see. |
kiwiaussie
Member
Username: kiwiaussie
Post Number: 4
Registered: 12-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, July 11, 2009 - 06:27 pm: |
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I'm back...
Please let me know if anybody wants the parts and user manual. |
Helge Eikesaas
Visitor
| | Posted on Monday, August 03, 2009 - 04:41 pm: |
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Hi, I am interested in the manuals. Can you please send me a copy? my e-mail is [email protected] |
markus_b
New member
Username: markus_b
Post Number: 1
Registered: 03-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, March 20, 2010 - 12:17 pm: |
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Hello Gentlemen,
I just came in possession of a nice Folkboat with a Drofin 12m Engine in it. According to the previous owner the engine works fine, but the gearbox has some problems. I have not yet seen myself.
All manuals have been lost, so I'm search for everything available, Users Guide, Maintenance Guide, etc. I'd be very grateful for help !
My email is [email protected] |
maeling
New member
Username: maeling
Post Number: 2
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, May 08, 2010 - 09:34 am: |
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G'day, Can anyone assist in sourcing Drofin/Renault oil filters
I've been running my Drofin happily for 28 years - great engine 1450 hours from new.
Got a problem, having trouble sourcing oil filters in Sydney Australia. With the current Aussie Dollar, I'm considering buying 10 - 12 overseas.
Part number equivalents are
Fiamm FT4664
AC X91
Fram P4512
Coopers LSF5123
Ruggerini 17511
Clean DO315
Slanzi 407045
Fispa FOE191
Savara 50524
With so many alternates the filter must have been used on more than Drofins and Ducatti Condor A350's
Appreciate any help, also have a wide variety of spares |
markus_b
New member
Username: markus_b
Post Number: 2
Registered: 03-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, May 08, 2010 - 09:55 am: |
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I've found the filters at wismet.de, a filter manufacturer.
Oil Filter: WOE8235 (EUR 9.05)
Fuel Filter: WFU37496 (EUR 11.83)
They sent me off to sf-filters.ch as local distributor, but sf-filters
only sells to professionals and I'll ask my boatyard to buy me some.
I suppose they would have not problem to sell you a quantity, provided
you pay shipping. |
kiwiaussie
Member
Username: kiwiaussie
Post Number: 6
Registered: 12-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, May 08, 2010 - 06:04 pm: |
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Hi Maeling,
Gineco Marine in Sydney has the Fiamm at around $30aus. I have found a trucking company here on the Gold Coast called "Briggs diesel spares" that have an equvilant at $13aus. Very good value. |
maeling
New member
Username: maeling
Post Number: 3
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, May 08, 2010 - 06:20 pm: |
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Thanks Marcus_b and kiwiaussie (I'll forgive you brother). I have been shy of Gineico suspecting about $30
Went to Wismet. EUR 9.05 is about $13 - have asked for a price on 12
Briggs sounds good - but will now try locally and see if there is a second source first.
Again thanks |
maeling
Member
Username: maeling
Post Number: 4
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, May 08, 2010 - 06:26 pm: |
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Appreciate a lead on Briggs. All I can pull up on the Gold Coast is Briggs & Stratton.
Also my AC part# equivalet listed above may not be correct |
maeling
Member
Username: maeling
Post Number: 5
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 12, 2010 - 06:59 pm: |
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Got a brief reply from Wismet. "We do not deliver to Australia"
Just sent a reply offering to pay freight on 12 filters.. I think I originally bought 20 thinking I had a lifetime supply! No one told me how long a lifetime was. |
markus_b
New member
Username: markus_b
Post Number: 3
Registered: 03-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, May 13, 2010 - 04:26 am: |
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I would try to find the filters in Australia. There certainly are companies
supplying all kinds of filters who might have a compatible one.
There is www.rycofilters.com.au, who allow to search for filters by
physical dimensions, so it looks likely you can find one.
Markus |
lucio Laloè
Visitor
| | Posted on Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 03:36 am: |
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Good morning, I am looking for the spare parts of water pump of my Drofin 12/M. Does somebody help me? Thank you in advance. |
tbfrance
New member
Username: tbfrance
Post Number: 2
Registered: 12-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 04:47 am: |
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see www.renaultcouach.com they have parts and recon pumps |
kipster
New member
Username: kipster
Post Number: 1
Registered: 05-2010
| | Posted on Friday, May 21, 2010 - 12:05 am: |
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Hi,
Does anyone know the Bosch part number for the alternator used on the Drofin 12M?
Thanks
kip |
maeling
Member
Username: maeling
Post Number: 6
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Friday, May 21, 2010 - 01:58 am: |
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Lucio, What country are you in. I have parts in Australia but exchange/shipping is possibly too expensive. What parts do you need?
Shaft, Impellers, bearing/seal
Geoff |
maeling
Member
Username: maeling
Post Number: 7
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Friday, May 21, 2010 - 02:01 am: |
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I've heard of Drofin oil filters available in Bendigo at $37 ea. It's a bit too expensive compared to Sydney at $30 that I am already rebelling over.
Geoff |
kipster
New member
Username: kipster
Post Number: 2
Registered: 05-2010
| | Posted on Friday, May 21, 2010 - 03:43 am: |
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Hi Geoff,
Exactly what parts do you have and do you source them locally
kip |
maeling
Member
Username: maeling
Post Number: 8
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Friday, May 21, 2010 - 09:59 pm: |
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Drofin alternator - in my workshop manual it say the Alternator is a Bosch 0 120 339 521
current at 3000rpm (?engine/alternator?) 28 amps
Engine /alternator ratio 1 2.04 so I suspect rpm given is for the engine
The only other number is on what I take to be the regulator box an the back of the Alternator
0 1`92 052 004EE14V3
Geoff |
maeling
Member
Username: maeling
Post Number: 9
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Friday, May 21, 2010 - 10:10 pm: |
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Kipster, I must reveal who I really am
Batman - no not really
I bought my Drofin in 1982 when I worked for British Leyland Sydney. When they ceased distributing them,I had the opportunity to by a sufficient quantity of parts to rebuild my engine should it ever get drowned. Later they gave me a crate of second hand parts from the workshop including 3 spare gearboxes an starter and alternator. Plus a lot of new impellers.
In 1480 hours I have used up my injectors, headgasket and oil filters. Plus at least one of my gearbox cones. It has been a good engine to me.
With no intention of getting rid of my Drofin anytime soon, i need to be careful about running down my supplies |
kipster
New member
Username: kipster
Post Number: 3
Registered: 05-2010
| | Posted on Friday, May 21, 2010 - 11:29 pm: |
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Thanks for the info, Geoff.
You are fortunate re parts. I have just purchased this engine along with a fishing boat.
What can you tell me about the motor anode? I don't really see the point in buying them if I can make my own ie JB Weld Zinc to brass nut
Regards
kip |
kipster
Member
Username: kipster
Post Number: 4
Registered: 05-2010
| | Posted on Friday, May 21, 2010 - 11:34 pm: |
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One other thing Geof.
You mentioned a Workshop manual. It must have a lot more info than the manual I have. Have you got a scanned copy of it?
Thanks
kip |
maeling
Member
Username: maeling
Post Number: 10
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, May 27, 2010 - 08:11 am: |
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Kip, apologies on apologies, sorry just found that manual in my Outbox trying to send again - killed it. Problem between Outlook and IInet
Geoff |
maeling
Member
Username: maeling
Post Number: 11
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, May 27, 2010 - 08:15 am: |
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Drofin Oil filter - Rang Gineico today they have stock in Sydney A$126.50 for an 8"x2" spin on filter. Got onto a diesel mechanic who will sell me his last one for $20
Grrrrrr!
Geoff |
maeling
Member
Username: maeling
Post Number: 12
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, May 27, 2010 - 08:19 am: |
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Drofin anode, Kip can you hold off for a couple of weeks So I can get anode dimensions.
Also suggest you don't use straight zinc. I believe anodes are an alloy. I can get a source of rod for you. What suburb is a chandler for you in.
Geoff |
kipster
Member
Username: kipster
Post Number: 5
Registered: 05-2010
| | Posted on Friday, May 28, 2010 - 07:41 am: |
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G'day Geoff,
I live close to Williamstown, Vic.
Re Manual. I thought you were spamming me. I got 50 copies. I see though that you sent through the Renault RC16 one. I have the actual drofin manual. Do you want a copy?
Ciao!
kip |
allcutup
New member
Username: allcutup
Post Number: 1
Registered: 05-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, May 29, 2010 - 09:12 am: |
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hi i have a drofin m12 engine that is missing a starter motor does anybody have a spare or know an automotive equivalent? |
maeling
Member
Username: maeling
Post Number: 13
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, May 29, 2010 - 06:43 pm: |
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Yeah sorry Kip.
I do have hard copy of the Drofin one and picked up the soft copy on the net.
Geoff |
maeling
Member
Username: maeling
Post Number: 15
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, May 30, 2010 - 01:54 am: |
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Allcutup, have replied on new thread "Drofin starter
Geoff |
detecta2
Visitor
| | Posted on Sunday, May 30, 2010 - 07:05 pm: |
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HLLO, Fuel pump on my drofin 12m not working,to buy kit do I go through Geneico or can it be purchased through someone like repco,a friend suggested I should replace with electric pump, any advice appreciated, regards phill, woy woy central coast nsw |
Leonardo Antenori
Visitor
| | Posted on Sunday, July 04, 2010 - 04:09 am: |
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hi everybody...
I'm looking for the soft copy of the manual of Drofin 12M. Most probably I have some problems on the cooling system...
If somebody can help me sending the manual or whatever available to [email protected]
many thanks in advance |
kappie
New member
Username: kappie
Post Number: 1
Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Monday, December 13, 2010 - 05:50 pm: |
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Hello everyone,
i`m looking for all information there is for the AS16 gearbox whats been mounted onde RC11d renault couach engine
regards Wil |
Josko
Visitor
| | Posted on Saturday, July 23, 2011 - 05:42 am: |
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Hi,everybody I have DROFIN 12M ,engine and badly need of gear box con!Ihave engine italien-english mannual book.Contact me on [email protected] |
driftwood
Visitor
| | Posted on Monday, September 26, 2011 - 11:41 pm: |
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Drofin mechanic in Melb desperately needed. After changing rings, valves, bigend shells, injectors and inj pump elements it still only runs on 1cyl. Also shocking low oil pressure, which is despite good gears in the pump. GK 0438 684318 |
davidimagining
New member
Username: davidimagining
Post Number: 1
Registered: 10-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, October 06, 2011 - 07:38 pm: |
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Kiwiaussie, if you still have a copy of the user and parts manual for the Drofin 12M, could you please forward a digital copy or hard copy? Able to reimburse you for any costs involved.
I have recently acquired a sailing cat which has a Drofin that seems to have been modified incorrectly and is not working properly so I aim to try to restore the engine to its original state. Hence the need for a manual. Thanks from Brisbane. |
tbfrance
New member
Username: tbfrance
Post Number: 3
Registered: 12-2007
| | Posted on Friday, October 07, 2011 - 01:09 am: |
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[email protected] email them for prices of all parts and they will also send a pdf manual FOC |
tbfrance
Member
Username: tbfrance
Post Number: 4
Registered: 12-2007
| | Posted on Friday, October 07, 2011 - 01:11 am: |
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oops sorry gave the wrong url it should be www.renaultcouach.com their email is [email protected] |
maeling
Member
Username: maeling
Post Number: 25
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Friday, October 07, 2011 - 03:21 am: |
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TB, is there any difference between the Drofin and the Renault 16 except that the Drofin has a max intermittent hp of 15hp
Geoff of Maeling |
maeling
Member
Username: maeling
Post Number: 26
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Friday, October 07, 2011 - 03:24 am: |
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Drofin oil filters - Does anyone know of a supplier for these - anywhere. I am not going to pay Gineico's prices and am considering a remote adaptor for something more commercially available
Geoff |
kipster
Member
Username: kipster
Post Number: 16
Registered: 05-2010
| | Posted on Friday, October 07, 2011 - 09:43 pm: |
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G'day Geoff,
CHeck discussion below
http://www.oldmarineengine.com/discus/messages/3/138133.html
Edit: You could also try Centre State Bearings in Bendigo Vic
regards
kip |
driftwood
Visitor
| | Posted on Monday, October 17, 2011 - 09:40 pm: |
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Does anyone in Melb work on these? I need a mechanic to get front cyl firing - changing valve seals, rings, bigend shells, injectors&pump elements has solved nothing. Geoff 0438 684318 |
kipster
Member
Username: kipster
Post Number: 17
Registered: 05-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 19, 2011 - 02:01 am: |
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G'day Geoff,
Try Morassi & Williams in Williamstown, Victoria. I believe they have worked on Drofins before. The one that knows the most about Drofins (Bruce) is on leave at the moment so give them a call in a couple of weeks.
Regards
kip |
davidimagining
New member
Username: davidimagining
Post Number: 2
Registered: 10-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 30, 2012 - 05:59 am: |
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Hi all, I need to buy an impeller for the water pump on my Drofin 12M and would like to hear from any person or source in Australia who is prepared to sell one to me, rather than trying to obtain one from overseas. Apparently the RC16D is identical
so an impeller from that version would be suitable.
If you have any information please message me, thanks from Brisbane, David. |
maeling
Member
Username: maeling
Post Number: 27
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 30, 2012 - 08:57 am: |
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Yeah, I can help with a new one and include a second hand one free with no visible damage. Say $30 incl P&P
Geoff Raebel
www.australianyachtsman.com.au |
tbfrance
Member
Username: tbfrance
Post Number: 5
Registered: 12-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, May 31, 2012 - 12:14 pm: |
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see http://www.drofin.co.uk/ they will email pdf manuals free and have most parts including impellers |
Bradsholto
Visitor
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 08, 2014 - 05:27 pm: |
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Heres a link to manual
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/xk49w43q1klkvtl/AACw6oGYYafEpMHgCdRxZkAma?dl=0 |
maeling
Member
Username: maeling
Post Number: 28
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Monday, October 20, 2014 - 11:47 pm: |
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Difference between Drofin and Renault 16
The two appear identical except for the power output coupling and gearbox power input coupling. Perhaps the fuel pumps are different.
You cannot put a Renault gearbox on a Drofin or vice-versa Geoff |
maeling
Member
Username: maeling
Post Number: 29
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Monday, October 20, 2014 - 11:57 pm: |
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Drofin fuel pump problem resolved. My pump stopped working - correct kit was hard to identify and return freight to Melb would have to be paid if I got it wrong.
So pulled the pump apart and found the outlet valve disk floating inside the pump diaphragm. The problem is that the assembly is only held in place by friction. After reassembly I used a fine centrepunch to put 3 dimples in the diecast above the assembly. All works fine. ps Injector shop recommended against replacing with an electric pump. The fuel oversupply at higher pressure would find its way into the sump oil.
Geoff |
maeling
Member
Username: maeling
Post Number: 30
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2014 - 12:01 am: |
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Exchange Drofin/Renault engines.
Hans Lembke in Sydney sells complete exchange engine with gearboxes for about Au$3000 incl warranty.
Geoff |
venderbroeck
New member
Username: venderbroeck
Post Number: 1
Registered: 06-2015
| | Posted on Monday, June 15, 2015 - 05:40 pm: |
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Hello, does anyone here still have those service and overhaul manuals for the renault rc16d?
Mine starts a little sluggishly and smokes a bit.
Runs fine though, and has plenty of power.
Maybe the timing of the diesel pump is off? |
maeling
Advanced Member
Username: maeling
Post Number: 31
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Monday, June 15, 2015 - 07:06 pm: |
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Maarteen, I don't think your problem is timing, you said it runs okay.
Three times I have had long cranking - causes
- Fuel - there seemed to be no fuel at the injectors and had to be pumped through before start
- Backpressure - exhaust waterbox full and the engine had to blow it out
- Headgasket - blowing |
venderbroeck
New member
Username: venderbroeck
Post Number: 2
Registered: 06-2015
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2015 - 05:05 am: |
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If the headgasket would be blowing, wouldn't there be loss of power as well?
Are any of those causes accompanied by smoking in your experience? |
maeling
Advanced Member
Username: maeling
Post Number: 32
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2015 - 05:44 pm: |
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No, the first I had at about 800 hours, my only symptom was fine carbon over the entire area inside the engine box. The second at 1600 hours was only evidenced by a subtle clicking. Eventually cranking with fuel shutoff, I could hear a slight whistle.
Really I think yours is a fuel issue. When were the injectors last serviced? Geoff |
JoeLattimer
Visitor
| | Posted on Monday, January 25, 2016 - 08:47 am: |
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Hi, could someone please email me a PDF copy of the Drofin 12M manual. [email protected]
Thankyou |
rowboat
Member
Username: rowboat
Post Number: 7
Registered: 01-2013
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2017 - 03:42 am: |
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Hi All
I am after a copy of the 12hp Drofin Manual too please. I have just bought an old 25ft Roberts Yacht with a Drofin diesel in it that doesn't want to go!
Thanks Paul |
kipster
Member
Username: kipster
Post Number: 23
Registered: 05-2010
| | Posted on Monday, August 07, 2017 - 01:14 am: |
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G'day Rowboat,
I have sent one to your email address.
kip |
waynef
New member
Username: waynef
Post Number: 1
Registered: 09-2017
| | Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2017 - 07:34 pm: |
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Hi everyone...
I have been playing with my old Drofin for a couple of years now. pulled it apart and put it back together a couple of times now. Reusing old gaskets. However my head gasket is leaking a little puff of exhaust at the rear of the engine albeit the engine does run fine now and starts first time always. Anyone know where I can source a head gasket? |
bruce
Senior Member
Username: bruce
Post Number: 621
Registered: 07-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2017 - 08:46 pm: |
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gasketstogo.com ??? |
kipster
Member
Username: kipster
Post Number: 24
Registered: 05-2010
| | Posted on Monday, September 25, 2017 - 01:23 am: |
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G'day Waynef,
You Could try Gineico in NSW or Access Parts in Cheltenham, Vic.} |
bojk
New member
Username: bojk
Post Number: 1
Registered: 11-2017
| | Posted on Thursday, November 09, 2017 - 04:02 am: |
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Hi, could someone please email me a PDF copy of the Drofin 12M manual. [email protected]
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rowboat
Member
Username: rowboat
Post Number: 8
Registered: 01-2013
| | Posted on Friday, November 10, 2017 - 12:25 am: |
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Hi Bojk
Will send you a copy shortly |
bojk
New member
Username: bojk
Post Number: 2
Registered: 11-2017
| | Posted on Saturday, November 11, 2017 - 12:10 pm: |
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thank you very much |
vince
New member
Username: vince
Post Number: 1
Registered: 10-2018
| | Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2018 - 10:03 am: |
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Hi All,
Could someone please email me a PDF copy of the Drofin 12M manual.
[email protected] |
smilne1963
New member
Username: smilne1963
Post Number: 1
Registered: 10-2019
| | Posted on Saturday, October 12, 2019 - 07:58 pm: |
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Hi All . I'm also looking for the workshop manual for a drofin 12hp in a Alloora trailer sailed. I'm restoring my late dads yacht. She hasn't run for years after finding the fuel rack gummed up she's running. I've fitted a oil pressure direct reading gauge to her and pressure is off the dial. Pressure relief valve. Not sure where it is. Manual would be greatly appreciated.
Mechanic Stuart.
[email protected] |
