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miro forest
Senior Member
Username: miro
Post Number: 421
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Monday, January 25, 2010 - 02:47 pm: | 
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We had a good time loading the engines and visiting the shop.
The Palmer HH is now safely snoozing for the rest of the winter up in Port Carling - just like the rest of my boats and motors.
Have a look at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yS1K5NpoFEU
miro |
miro forest
Senior Member
Username: miro
Post Number: 422
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Monday, January 25, 2010 - 02:49 pm: |
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Note the rank amateur video production values complete with inane commentary - but hey - I can only get better from here on in.
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J.B. Castagnos
Senior Member
Username: jb_castagnos
Post Number: 500
Registered: 07-2002
| | Posted on Monday, January 25, 2010 - 10:03 pm: |
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Thanks for the video Miro, wish I could have been there. Why do I wonder how they built the pyramids when I watch these motors being loaded? |
Ernie
Senior Member
Username: ernie
Post Number: 1150
Registered: 01-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 26, 2010 - 03:08 pm: |
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Neat vid
I MUST remember the best way to get out of moving engines is to run the camera...
Bob did you get home ok with all those engines?
The way you tied them down it looked as if you were anticipating a "roll over"
Thanks guys work is so much fun to watch. |
Robert B. Price
Senior Member
Username: rbprice
Post Number: 291
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 27, 2010 - 04:35 pm: |
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As always Ernie the Mazda behaved delightfully. Even with the load and the cruise set on 71 MPH it still got 19.5 mpg. And we did have a good time and, thanks to Bruce, a great lunch.
Probably the funniest part was Miro quivering when he saw all the stuff in the barn. |
Richard A. Day Jr.
Senior Member
Username: richardday
Post Number: 843
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 27, 2010 - 07:36 pm: |
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Miro,
I am glad the HH has a good home. Would like to get the serial number for my listing. |
miro forest
Senior Member
Username: miro
Post Number: 423
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Friday, January 29, 2010 - 08:37 am: |
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Richard,
I'll try to get it this weekend - unless it's under 4 ft of snow. I'm in Toronto, the engine is now about 2 hours NORTH of me.
In Canada everything is NORTH.
This is quite unlike Louisiana , where there is no NORTH.
miro |
John Davis
Senior Member
Username: johnny
Post Number: 216
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Friday, January 29, 2010 - 11:12 am: |
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I have been drooling every sense I watched Miro's video. Looks like some lucky person or person's got a truck load of engines? Thanks for sharing the video.
Amazing there are still old shops like that around. |
Robert B. Price
Senior Member
Username: rbprice
Post Number: 292
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Friday, January 29, 2010 - 11:48 am: |
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That truck was mine John but only one of the engines was for me. The others are headed to Cajun Country and Dick Day's barn. |
John Davis
Senior Member
Username: johnny
Post Number: 217
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Friday, January 29, 2010 - 12:02 pm: |
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Bob, The important thing is that they are going to people like you, Richard, Miro and others that will take care of them and they will not end up at the scrap yard or setting out in the weather going to waste. Then one of these days when I come up to one of the shows up north I will get to see a lot of the nice marine engines. |
Robert
Senior Member
Username: robert
Post Number: 338
Registered: 07-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, January 30, 2010 - 01:42 am: |
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Love those bungee cords!
Time for one of those little cranes you can bolt to your truck bed? Mine works like a charm. Take the top off your engine hoist and weld up a base.
What was the story behind this treasure trove? |
Robert B. Price
Senior Member
Username: rbprice
Post Number: 293
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, January 30, 2010 - 04:12 pm: |
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Hubie Jones in Rome, NY died and left his widow with the barn full of engines. I got involved because I live only 1.45 hrs. east plus I wanted one of the engines. There are still some left as of today. A fully restored twin Gray and a fully restored single Gray.
Loading wasn't a problem as all of them were liftable by two people and I have an electric winch that is attached to the head end of my box so I can pull up into the bed most anything. Normally I would have roped them in more securely but they were packed like sardines and couldn't move much.
I have pictures of the Grays if you are interested. |
Robert
Senior Member
Username: robert
Post Number: 339
Registered: 07-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, January 30, 2010 - 04:41 pm: |
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Thank you Bob, I'd be interested in photos. No doubt others would be as well, when convenient for you. |
Robert B. Price
Senior Member
Username: rbprice
Post Number: 294
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, January 30, 2010 - 05:15 pm: |
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Here are the Gray's - the asking price for the twin is $700 and for the single $600; pickup in Rome, NY
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Robert B. Price
Senior Member
Username: rbprice
Post Number: 295
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, January 30, 2010 - 05:20 pm: |
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Here is the twin
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Robert
Senior Member
Username: robert
Post Number: 340
Registered: 07-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, January 30, 2010 - 05:31 pm: |
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Interesting! Are those double Lavigne oilers original? I've got some extras.
I see the twin has the flange to mount the Detroit lubricator also. Was that a factory option, or has someone retrofitted the drip oilers after the Detroit failed?
The groove in the flywheel is not I assume?
I need one of those oil cups for the water pump if anyone has a spare? Looks like a deep primer cup. |
Frank Petran
Senior Member
Username: frank_petran
Post Number: 79
Registered: 05-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, January 30, 2010 - 08:12 pm: |
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Again, It is nice to see the engines going to good home but a thought just came to me. I am also into old wood boats and I have several of them and I am starting to collect old marine engines so what happens to all this neat stuff when we aren't around to give them a good home. The cost of collecting our toys is rising and the younger folks don't have the free money that most of us have so they get disgusted and walk away from the hobby. A lot of our children don't even share the same interested that we do. It isn't instant gratification so it is left behind. I know that trying to interest the youth in old wood boats if really an uphill battle for our organization, The Antique and Classic Boat Society. I brought 3 old engines to the Milwaukee Boat Show last week and 95% of the people who stopped and looked at the display were people with the same color hair as mine, somewhat gray. I'll post the pictures tomorrow. I don't have an answer to this problem of making sure the hobby carries on along with the history of it but I would sure could use some input. I'll copy this on to a new topic. |
John Davis
Senior Member
Username: johnny
Post Number: 225
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, January 30, 2010 - 09:28 pm: |
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This same question was brought up on Harry's stationary engine forum so they did a little survey and discovered that there was a lot more younger collectors then everyone thought. I do not remember the exact numbers but it was pretty good. However I'm not sure about the interest in marine engines. Seems like to me there are less people that collect marine engines then stationary farm engines but I could be wrong. I would like to get more people in Florida interested in the old inboard marine engines and boats. The one show that they have in Florida seems to be centered more around the larger late model boats. |
Andrew Menkart
Moderator
Username: andrew
Post Number: 1038
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, January 31, 2010 - 12:10 pm: |
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I'm not sure how many of you knew Hubie Jones, but I had the pleasure of visiting him several times and getting the tour of his engine collection. He was very gracious man and a knowledgeable collector. He knew a lot about the company history of Cady and Tuttle engine companies of NY.
I know that Bruce Hall was friendly with him and I believe that Hubie used to go to some of the NY State engine shows.
I'm sure he would be pleased to know that his engines have gone to appreciative collectors.
If anyone has a photo of Hubie or other memories of him, please post them here.
Thanks. |
John Davis
Senior Member
Username: johnny
Post Number: 227
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, January 31, 2010 - 12:20 pm: |
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Those are some nice looking engines for sale. I just purchased six stationary farm engines and one marine engine. So I'm about spent out for a while. Although I really like that twin Gray!
Did Hubie Jones work on the old engines as a marine business at one time?
I sure could use one of those cast bronze or brass timer & throttle levers for a gray. Anyone have any spare parts they might be willing to part with? |
Robert
Senior Member
Username: robert
Post Number: 341
Registered: 07-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, January 31, 2010 - 01:37 pm: |
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Andrew, that's a nice idea for a bit of a tribute. Perhaps that deserves a page of its own, and perhaps there are others who might be remembered the same way?
Did Mr. Jones put any of his knowledge or research in writing, and is anything being done to preserve that?
I always want to find as much of the history of an engine as I can. The artifact is interesting, but being a history buff, it means a lot more when you know the names and stories of owners and boats etc. I mention this here, because this case reminds me of others and how much information is lost when the collector passes, as many of us don't keep good records, and of course some of us really aren't interested in that aspect at all; which is a pity I feel. |
Robert B. Price
Senior Member
Username: rbprice
Post Number: 296
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, January 31, 2010 - 08:31 pm: |
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First - the GRAY twin has been sold.
Second - I will try to get a picture of Hubie when I go back next Sunday to get another engine.
I think the last marine engine is a CADY single. If it is still there I will post some pictures next week. |
