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BrandonP
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Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 01:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have just turned up a different engine that I hope someone can help me identify. There is no name anywhere, nor was there a spot for one. (no drive screw holes etc.) The only markings on the whole engine are the number 11 which is stamped on everything that was lapped/fitted. It is extremely robust for the size. It has a huge rod bearing on the crank and bronze bushings throughout. It also has a full brass water jacket from crankcase to head. Also, it has a crankpin oiler like a lathrop, and all of the lubricators are local from New England. Any ideas?

unknown engine
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Ernie
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Username: ernie

Post Number: 904
Registered: 01-2002


Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 03:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yup used to be mine. There are a bunch of pics on here somewhere. I will have to look as to what it is. I just don't remember
Andrew has one that is a lot bigger.
Andrew???
Definatly not Lathrop
By the way who has it now?
Hope this helps
Ernie
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William Schaller
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Username: billschaller

Post Number: 181
Registered: 12-2003


Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 03:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You should put an "Ernie" tag on them when they get free.
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Andrew Menkart
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Username: andrew

Post Number: 965
Registered: 11-2001


Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 03:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Baldwin

The one I have isn't copper jacketed.

Do a search for Baldwin using the search tool at the top of the page.
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Ernie
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Username: ernie

Post Number: 905
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Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 07:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Andrew
hehehehe Bill
I am quite sure the copper actually brass jacket is a repair. It is really a good runner though
It is in the Big Yellow and Big Red book too. Without the replacement jacket
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RichardDurgee
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Username: richarddurgee

Post Number: 1939
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 07:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Brandon

Possible to get photos of both sides and the back ??
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Ernie
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Username: ernie

Post Number: 906
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Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 10:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There on here somewhere
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Andrew Menkart
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Username: andrew

Post Number: 968
Registered: 11-2001


Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 09:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think these were taken when Ernie owned it. I had them in my files. There may still be other photos of it already on the board.

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Ernie
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Username: ernie

Post Number: 907
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Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 12:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Actually they were before I owned it. However...
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Ernie
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Username: ernie

Post Number: 908
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Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 01:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

By the way the brass jacket is a repair. I am quite sure that the cylinder and upper crankcase were turned in a lathe and the brass sleeve was pressed on.
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Roger DiRuscio
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Username: solarrog

Post Number: 335
Registered: 03-2002


Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 01:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That is a very interesting repair, Not many cylinders are round enound to do this too
thinking outside the box
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RichardDurgee
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Username: richarddurgee

Post Number: 1942
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 07:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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I keep looking at this engine and again thinking out loud !

This is a 1905 hard to find rare Baldwin ad, It shows a spoked flywheel and the cyl head looks thin in height like an early hot head.

Bad05

This is one of the few Baldwin engines I've seen , it was posted on here several yrs ago and it looks like the above ad. It shows detail of a rectangular casting on the front and aft of the Cylinder which would seem to preclude turning of the cylinder on a lathe ?


B1ome

This is from 1905 Lamb Boat & Engine Co., they had a cast cylinder that was lathe turned and a brass sleeve pressed on. also the photo of the engine seems to have a very similar shaped cyl head-- I have searched for a photo of a single about 1906-09 but none found so far ???

L051
L051abs
L051bs

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BrandonP
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Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2008 - 08:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I noticed that the paint code for lamb boat engines according to www.geocities.com/engdecal/paint.html is a red that is very similar to the engine in the photo.
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BrandonP
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Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2008 - 08:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sorry, the color code is DuPont RS-905.
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Andrew Menkart
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Username: andrew

Post Number: 969
Registered: 11-2001


Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2008 - 09:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Richard,

That Baldwin ad you posted is the first I have seen. Thanks!

The black and red single in the photos is mine and has no nameplate or name on it. Ernie had identified it as a Baldwin. I will post a couple larger photos. It appears to have been make an break ignition "converted" to jump spark at some point. I picked it up in North Carolina.

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Andrew Menkart
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Post Number: 970
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Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2008 - 09:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

some other photos

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RichardDurgee
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Username: richarddurgee

Post Number: 1944
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2008 - 02:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Andrew

Thanks for the better photos I've not seen another engine like it !

I have only ever seen 3 Baldwin ads, the 1905 above and two in 1906 just alike but all using the one picture ?

1906 Baldwin

B06

This is high resolution of just the engine, if you transfer it and zoom in you can see writing on the crankcase inspection plate ?
I don't see the rectangular casting on the front of cylinder with 6 bolt plate ??

B06001a

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