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richarddurgee
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Post Number: 1708
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Monday, June 09, 2008 - 08:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Standard Marine Engine 1903

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doug charles
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Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 10:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This engine is described and illustrated, as-built, in US Patent #794683, which formed the basis for the design of all single- and double-acting reversible Standards. The basic patent for the carburetor used on the double-actors as well as the subchaser and ML engines of WWI is US #1,006,130. They will pull up from Google Patents. The reversible Speedway did not appear until the lapse of 794683, as far as I can tell. Other information on Standard and Speedway reversible gas engines always welcome!
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bruce
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Post Number: 177
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Wednesday, July 02, 2008 - 09:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Very interesting note that the Standard's engine could briefly be run on compressed air on three of the cylinders for close quarters manouvering. Henry J Leighton from Syracuse NY built the only boat using his own design engine to ever defeat Standard. He is a little known mechanical genious of early marine engine design and racing.
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brand1
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Registered: 09-2006
Posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2008 - 08:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lets not forget that J.W. Lathrop had the first patent on a strictly marine internal combustion engine.1902 I believe.
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keith
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Post Number: 193
Registered: 02-2002


Posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2008 - 04:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Brandon,
I am curious as to what patent you are referencing. I couldn't find anything, and was interested in what the actual patent was covering.
R. E. Olds was building internal combustion marine engines and Sintz patented marine engines in the early 1890’s.
Keith,
REO
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richarddurgee
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Post Number: 1736
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Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 03:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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brand1 brings up a good historical question as to the first patent holder for a strictly marine designed engine ? With the Google patent site it should be doable. Off the top of my head Carl C. Riotte designed and made stationary engs by 1893 and the marine only "Empire Engs " in 1895-97 and began recieving patents in 1899, by 1900 he founded the Standard Co. in the above posts and designed the eng in the photos ! Maybe research will turn up earlier ones ??

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keith
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Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 04:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Richard, I came up dry doing a Google search. When you look at early patents, they tend to patent improvements to a gasoline engine. Probably for use with the widest application, they do not designate it for any particular use. I wonder who, if anyone, first developed or patented an engine that ran on gasoline?
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richarddurgee
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Post Number: 1737
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Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 07:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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This is a good summary of the Process getting to the actual gasoline engine !

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_combustion_engine.

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brand1
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Posted on Friday, July 11, 2008 - 07:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wow! I never realized how far back the internal combustion engine goes.Acording to Richards link we already had the supercharger and a bio-diesel engine by the turn of the last century; along with some other cool stuff.}
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keith
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Posted on Friday, July 11, 2008 - 08:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for the interesting link Richard. According to that link Siegfried Marcus put the first mobile Gasoline Engine on a handcart in 1870. I couldn't pick up on the first internal combustion engine to run on gasoline. I would also think the first gasoline was made from coal.
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douglas
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Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2010 - 02:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This and the other reversible Standards are covered in a detailed paper on my website

http://mechanicalbaroque.com
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richarddurgee
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Posted on Friday, July 30, 2010 - 09:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Doug
Thanks for posting this excellent Essay!
I know you have put a lot of work and time into it.
Very intersting and informative to read, nice photos and illustrations.
A tribute to Carl Riotte and his very early brilliance in design, innovation and mfging of these exceptional Marine Engines.
WELL DONE
Please keep us posted on any additions.

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douglas
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Registered: 10-2009
Posted on Saturday, July 31, 2010 - 10:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks, Richard, for the kudos and your invaluable posts. The Standard paper is definitely a work in progress. I'm expanding the "competitors" section, appending price list and patent information and completing the section on the commercial double-acting engines. I'll make noises when it's "complete".

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