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jeff
New member
Username: jeff
Post Number: 1
Registered: 08-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2006 - 03:50 am: | 
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I am NEW in Diesel Engine.
When the engine runs like 30 min it starts to boil and the engine starts shaking like mad.
The engine stops providing power. Although this engine has been checked last month.
Does any one know what the cause could be? |
solarrog
Senior Member
Username: solarrog
Post Number: 170
Registered: 03-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2006 - 11:59 am: |
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the Boil would indicate you are not moving your coolant. Check you thermostat and your water pump. Has the engine been run in shallow water where it could pump mud into the cooling system??
Is it a salt water motor?? A few more clues will help? |
jeff
New member
Username: jeff
Post Number: 2
Registered: 08-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 09, 2006 - 03:35 am: |
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HI solarrog,
Thanks for your reply.
Its a closed cooling system with cooling pipes running under the boat. So there is no fresh water pumped in. I will check the water pump and the thermostat. This is old engine you could be right that these items are need to be replaced.
I will check and let you know if it worked. Thanks ,
Jeff |
jeff
New member
Username: jeff
Post Number: 3
Registered: 08-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 09, 2006 - 03:38 am: |
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http://www.oldmarineengine.com/cgi-bin/discus/show.cgi?tpc=3&post=15784#POST1578 4
HI solarrog,
Thanks for your reply.
Its a closed cooling system with cooling pipes running under the boat. So there is no fresh water pumped in. I will check the water pump and the thermostat. This is old engine you could be right that these items are need to be replaced.
I will check and let you know if it worked. Thanks ,
Jeff |
stevea
New member
Username: stevea
Post Number: 1
Registered: 08-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 09:48 pm: |
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Hi I also a new user, can anyone tell me wher I can get a fuel pump for a SABB GG engine. Pleasse. |
jeff
Member
Username: jeff
Post Number: 4
Registered: 08-2006
| | Posted on Monday, August 21, 2006 - 09:10 am: |
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Hi stevea,
try the sabb website : http://www.sabb.no/eng/contentpg.aspx?zone=15
there are Sabb dealers listed, or je might try Sabb self.
Thanks to solarrog,
I have checked the thermostat and it seems to be working now.
thanks for your great help. |
galaxiebill
Member
Username: galaxiebill
Post Number: 5
Registered: 08-2006
| | Posted on Friday, August 25, 2006 - 06:19 am: |
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A week ago I heard that SABB has destroyed all parts for the engines they built themselves, that means the 8 and 10 hp, and all the rest.
I have not asked them myself, but a man who deals a lot with old engines, taking care of them told me so... it is a tremendous loss for all who loves old engines. But, this is the common thing in Norway, their excuse is that there is no money in parts for old engines. These engines were built to last for almost ever, and the new generation people who take over the businesses is economists, they want to sell engines that only last a little while so they can sell a new engine.
I am truly sorry about this.
Bill |
jeff
Member
Username: jeff
Post Number: 5
Registered: 08-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, November 16, 2006 - 06:57 am: |
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I am NEW in Diesel Engine.
I would like to know if there are other propellors that i can us in stead the original Sabb variable pitch propeller.
My goal is the change the 2 blade prop. with a 3 blade prop. To have more trust when cruising on open water.
Sabb 10HP
Thanks |
kurtizus
New member
Username: kurtizus
Post Number: 3
Registered: 02-2007
| | Posted on Friday, March 02, 2007 - 06:21 pm: |
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I have a new G 10 hp sabb that my dad bought 25 years ago never used were can I sale it ?
email me at [email protected] |
andrew
Moderator
Username: andrew
Post Number: 852
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, March 03, 2007 - 02:51 pm: |
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kurtizus,
Post it on our classifieds. |
virgil32
New member
Username: virgil32
Post Number: 1
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 11:28 am: |
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You can find parts at
SABB America East
119 Lake Shore Circle
Leesburg, FL 34588-8967
Phone 352 589-2882 |
Kenneth Burden
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| | Posted on Monday, May 18, 2009 - 03:34 pm: |
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Info please. Engine single cylinder Sabb, problem, lube oil will not run from cup on top of rocker arm cover. I have stripped down and cleaned with-out success. Engine has been in narrowboat since 1973 and is still superb apart from this niggling problem.
Kenneth Burden. |
galaxiebill
Member
Username: galaxiebill
Post Number: 7
Registered: 08-2006
| | Posted on Monday, May 18, 2009 - 04:45 pm: |
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Hello Kenneth.
First I want to say that the info I gave above about no parts for the SABB engines seems to be wrong. I have information that SABB deliver parts for the 4 stroke engines they made themselves, but not for the 2 stroke engines.
Then to your problem about the lube oil to the inlet valve. This tube is to be used for starting/cold starting only. It is not a lubrication of the valve in the normal sense. The user of the engine is supposed to squirt 6 strokes with a normal lubricating can down the tube before starting. This is supposed to lubricate the valve face and seat to give better compression during start, and lubricate the cylinder. Some used to thin the oil with a little diesel.
But Kenneth, do you have the proper manuals for your engine ? |
boycebessey
Visitor
| | Posted on Friday, September 03, 2010 - 07:59 am: |
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Lookingt for a fuel pump for a 10 hp saab marine engine. |
J.Davis
Visitor
| | Posted on Thursday, June 28, 2012 - 11:03 am: |
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Has anyone got a Sabb 10hp Type G cylinder head? Ours has cracked putting the boat we use for disabled sailing out of action.
John Davis - Bosun Padstow sailing Club |
johnwilliams
Visitor
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2013 - 12:16 pm: |
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Can some one tell me the correct colour to re paint a single cyd saab engine
JW |
Prescott
Visitor
| | Posted on Friday, September 06, 2013 - 02:42 pm: |
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I just picked up a sailboat boat with what looks like a 2 cylinder Sabb engine. The boat spent several days on the bottom of Faser River and so the engine is likely toast? I'll likely just throw on an outboard so what I'm wondering (since this engine looks so old) is it worth anything in parts to people? |
robert
Senior Member
Username: robert
Post Number: 599
Registered: 07-2003
| | Posted on Friday, September 06, 2013 - 06:16 pm: |
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Personally I can't see why an engine that is cooled with salt water suddenly becomes toast after a few days of complete immersion, anymore than a boat does. Saab made quite a lot of engine types going back to the 20s I believe, so you'll need to post more info. |
Prescott
Visitor
| | Posted on Sunday, September 08, 2013 - 01:32 am: |
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It's not that it just sat a few days under water it's that this happened over 2 months ago, the boat was raised partially pumped out and than sat untouched until given to me last week...
I have since moved the boat and pumped out the remaining water (over 1500gal). A local marine mechanic told me the engine will not be worth saving and that I should just install an outboard.
I don't have any other info on boat or the engine (I could take a pic). It looks very old and backwards! Plus it has a manual starter handle as well as a electric starter. |
solarrog
Senior Member
Username: solarrog
Post Number: 551
Registered: 03-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, September 08, 2013 - 02:00 am: |
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The mechanic or shop rate I'm sure is $100 per hour or more, They can not afford to repair engines like this. It is to time consuming. Search for a go used engine, It you ever do want to repair that engine, take it apart now and clean everything, oil it down and store it. Maybe consider trading it off to someone who will do this, if you do not have time. |
Prescott
Visitor
| | Posted on Sunday, September 08, 2013 - 01:11 pm: |
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If it's not worth a shops time why on earth would it be worth mine? (My time is valuable too! I'm not some retired old man with nothing better to do.)
Which is kinda the point I simply asked the mechanic if it's worth "my time" to save the engine and his opinion was its not and suggested I either replace it or run an outboard, which just so happens to be what I was thinking myself in the first place.
My only real question here was, is the engine of any value/worth/use to someone else? Because if not I'll use the damn thing as an anchor! (Don't take that very literal as I am against polluting)
I'll try to take a picture of it later and post that up. |
solarrog
Senior Member
Username: solarrog
Post Number: 552
Registered: 03-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, September 08, 2013 - 01:25 pm: |
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don't take this personally, many people repair these as a hobby, We have no idea what your interest & talent level are. Yes it will have some value to someone. They will most likely be in your area as shipping is expensive. Your not going to put your kids through college with this money |
dee_perkins
New member
Username: dee_perkins
Post Number: 1
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Sunday, September 08, 2013 - 03:26 pm: |
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since in has been out of the water 2 months it will need some polishing at a engineers workshop
google this, i-car advantage repairing a flood damaged engine
vol v11 no 4 july-august 1994
short version = Remove the starter and alternator. Rinse each thoroughly with large amounts of tap water and place in a warm (180- to 200-degree Fahrenheit) oven for one to two hours to dry.
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Remove the distributor cap, if the engine is powered by gasoline, and dry it. Inspect the condenser coil and points located under the cap. If they appear corroded or damaged, replace them. If the engine is diesel-powered, locate the plug at the bottom of the blower housing and remove it. Allow the water to drain from the engine before re-installing the plug. If the engine is a turbo-diesel, it will have to be repaired by a marine mechanic.
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Remove the spark plugs (gasoline engine) or the injectors (diesel engine), and suction all of the water from the cylinders using a turkey baster.
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Remove the oil from the engine, either by removing the drain plug or by siphoning with an oil-change pump, and drain the used oil into a container for proper disposal.
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Fill every available opening in the engine with either lubricating oil or diesel fuel. Replace the drain plug and fill the crank case with oil. Pour oil into either the carburetor or air intake -- whichever is applicable -- until it flows out of the spark plug holes. This displaces any water left inside.
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Turn the engine, manually using a wrench, several times to thoroughly coat all internal components with the oil. Refill the cylinders and carburetor with oil.
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Change the oil, or fluid, in the transmission.
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Inspect the fuel delivery system for water. Disconnect the fuel line and remove the fuel filter. Drain the line of all water and some of the fuel. Replace the fuel filter and re-attach the fuel line.
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Drain all the oil from the engine. Re-install the starter and alternator and add the proper amount of lube oil. Using short bursts from the starter, turn the engine to discharge any remaining water in the cylinders.
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Install the spark plugs and start the engine. Pay close attention to the gauges and shut the engine off immediately if there is any indication of trouble. If the engine appears to be running correctly, let it go for a while to heat up and rid itself of any leftover moisture.
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Take the motor to a qualified marine mechanic for a thorough inspection of every component. Additional oil changes and lubrication may be needed.
Tips & Warnings
Do not lift the motor out of the water until you are ready to work on it.
Even a small amount of water left in the fuel tank of a diesel engine can cause severe damage. |
Prescott
Visitor
| | Posted on Sunday, September 08, 2013 - 04:53 pm: |
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I don't take it personally at all. Worth is not always about a dollar value my friend, and I don't have kids to put through collage... ;)
Anyhow it's looking to me like the only thing gonna happen with this engine is a trip to the scrap yard. I certainly don't have the time or space to do anything else with it while waiting for the future day someone "might" have interest in it or parts thereof.
Thanks folks! |
macspud
Member
Username: macspud
Post Number: 16
Registered: 03-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, September 08, 2013 - 05:25 pm: |
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I'm sure someone would be interested. Your location and a picture of engine (would help narrow down what engine it is) would be helpful. It seems a shame to scrap the engine if it's repairable (likely) or even just good for spares. Sabb engines are proper life time engines the like of which are not made today. |
Prescott
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| | Posted on Sunday, September 08, 2013 - 05:58 pm: |
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The location is Gibsons BC and I'll get a pic uploaded of it in the next day or so..
Anyone that wants it is welcome to it! Just don't expect to get it off a driveway it must be picked up right out of my boat from the public wharf (there is a self use crane)
Once I am ready to pull it myself it will be going to scrap since as already stated I do not have the time or space to deal with it. |
solarrog
Senior Member
Username: solarrog
Post Number: 553
Registered: 03-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, September 08, 2013 - 08:09 pm: |
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post it here for free. someone will come pick it up. I am way out here in California
and can not help. |
jimdereynier
Senior Member
Username: jimdereynier
Post Number: 85
Registered: 08-2007
| | Posted on Friday, September 13, 2013 - 02:10 pm: |
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Prescott. I have been out in Oregon for the past 2 weeks so I missed the emails.
You have a Sabb 2H. ( or 2H G( look on the underside of the water tank - or the name plate on the aft end of the engine block) This is popular engine on the west Coast- just look at this site for people looking for spare parts. My current engine also sat in salt water for a week- 13 years ago when I bought the Atkin Schooner.
Dee Perkins advice is great- Will add to fill the clutch housing with a gallon of WD-40 ( or better yet Knoil ) and let sit for a few weeks then fill with 30WD oil.
If you question the durability of these engines, go visit
Pat Disjardon, Pat's marine diesel Service , 206-285-0184, Seattle , 1080 West Ewing Pl. He does not do email.
As far as the engine's worth- I bought a spare on the West coast for $500 and paid $800 to haul it to CT. I have used the Exhaust manifold ( $900) and starter ( last month ( $1000-1800)
Bottom line- Sabb's like some other old engines are more of a religion) |
Prescott
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| | Posted on Tuesday, September 17, 2013 - 11:57 am: |
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I tried to register on this site so I could go to the classifieds butter site is not very iphone compatible so my attempt failed..
I tried to upload a pic but they are to large for this site as well and the admins I guess don't know how to ad an auto image resizer...
Anyhoo. I don't know a darn thing about working on a marine engine let alone a desiel! (Give me a AMC 360, Jeep 258 or a rotary and I'll go right to town on them!)
Not that I'm afraid to learn, But! The boat is my shelter, I don't have more than some basic tools and certainly no where to take an engine apart.
The best thing for it and me is for "it" to be removed from the boat and on to someone that has the means to care for an engine like this...
If someone wants to give me a few bucks for it great! I'll buy an outboard...
And if someone just wants it for free that's fine too but they'll have to remove it from the boat! (Gently lol) |
rholcomb
Senior Member
Username: rholcomb
Post Number: 62
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, September 19, 2013 - 10:41 pm: |
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where are you at thanks bob.. |
robert
Senior Member
Username: robert
Post Number: 603
Registered: 07-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, September 19, 2013 - 11:17 pm: |
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He's in Gibson's (Landing) Bob, where Relic and all the rest of the gang from The Beachcombers live! ;-)
If the boat is a floating crash pad, then I guess it doesn't matter what engine it has, but if you plan to go very far in it, it would be worth cleaning up the Saab IMO. You can burn anything from waste engine oil to fryer oil to furnace oil in an older generation diesel. |
Prescott
Visitor
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 24, 2013 - 08:51 pm: |
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Well, some friends have convinced me to scrap the whole boat for its lead value & so that's what I've decided to do.
With any luck the keel will have a heavy enough piece of lead in it that I will be able to buy a better (more livable) boat.
I sold 500lbs of lead out of the floor today and have about 300lbs more to take out. Then I spent the rest of the day stripping hardware and sold some of it too already. The mast were cutting down with a chain saw and it will be used for firewood..
If anyone is close enough and or has the means and wants this engine or parts of it best to get in touch with me asap...
I can move the boat to the local wharf where there is a manual crane to lift it out. |
jimdereynier
Senior Member
Username: jimdereynier
Post Number: 89
Registered: 08-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 25, 2013 - 11:31 am: |
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The mast is worth selling-especially if it is Sitka Spruce. You will find buyers for the Sabb 2H ( I could use the starter but I will wait until you have tried selling the whole engine. I shipped my spare 2 H from Seattle to CT - $800) |
Prescott
Visitor
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 25, 2013 - 12:20 pm: |
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I unfortunately don't have the convenience of time and space to list and sell anything in a classified sense.. The boat is tied to a public dock and it's going to be beached and a saws all taken to it in order to get the keel off.
It's all taken place this weekend, no time to waste.. ;)
Jim if you want the starter, email me and we'll arrange it.. |
robert
Senior Member
Username: robert
Post Number: 605
Registered: 07-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, October 05, 2013 - 06:20 pm: |
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Some good info on seeing past cosmetics here: http://coxengineering.sharepoint.com/Pages/Enginefaults.aspx |
