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richarddurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 1138
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Friday, June 09, 2006 - 11:35 pm: | 
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1911 ad
Edward Grimm mfgd these engines under his name untill 1912- became Peerless Marine Motor Co.also in Buffalo !
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jb_castagnos
Senior Member
Username: jb_castagnos
Post Number: 137
Registered: 07-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, June 11, 2006 - 10:57 am: |
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Richard, doesn't this engine look like a bargain compared to similar engines of this time? The weight seems very low for a six cylinder. The Fisherman is 6hp, 600lbs. |
richarddurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 1141
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, June 11, 2006 - 02:09 pm: |
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Paige-Detroit Motor Car Company, I just recently added this mfgr to my list.
This marine engine had the flywheel spokes cast as fan blades ? $225
1911 ad
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billschaller
Senior Member
Username: billschaller
Post Number: 64
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, June 11, 2006 - 03:08 pm: |
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like this?
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billschaller
Senior Member
Username: billschaller
Post Number: 65
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, June 11, 2006 - 03:17 pm: |
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It looks like that air compressor flywheel is correct, it's a good thing I didn't remove it and throw it away. Richard, any chance you can email me a high resolution copy of that ad? |
richarddurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 1142
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, June 11, 2006 - 03:47 pm: |
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Bill
That's Great to get a name on that rare old engine !
Wonder if thats the same engine mfgr that made the Graham-Paige automobiles ??
I'll email the ad. |
billschaller
Senior Member
Username: billschaller
Post Number: 66
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, June 11, 2006 - 03:49 pm: |
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Paige-Detroit (1909-27): Harry Jewett made a fortune in mining around the turn of the century and decided to try the same in the then infant auto industry. He acquired a car designed by Andrew Bachle which was being promoted by Fred O. Paige.
Since Jewett didn't know much about autos, he installed Paige as president of his newly formed Paige-Detroit Motor Car Co. in 1909. In 1910, having learned a bit about cars, he decided that the Paige was "a piece of junk" and fired Paige, took over himself and hired a new engineering department to design a new car. The new car was a vast improvement on the older one and Paige sales gradually picked up. The first six-cylinder Paige appeared in 1915.
The Paige gained a reputation for graceful styling and good performance. A smaller companion car was introduced in 1922, named after the president and founder, Harry Jewett.
In 1927, Jewett decided he had had enough of the auto business and sold the company to the Graham brothers, Joseph B., Robert C., and Ray A., who reorganized it as Graham-Paige Motors Corp. |
richarddurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 1143
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, June 11, 2006 - 03:50 pm: |
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1911 Marine engine classifieds
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billschaller
Senior Member
Username: billschaller
Post Number: 67
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, June 11, 2006 - 03:58 pm: |
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Richard,
thanks a lot, you really made my day. That engine is a non-conventional marine, and I have always wondered why it was built like it was. It was obviously built by a company that had a big engineering staff, it sure wasn't put together by a one person blacksmith shop. It makes sense if it was a car motor, that was adapted to marine use. I am now going to waste a bunch of time looking it up.
http://www.wcroberts.org/index.html |
billschaller
Senior Member
Username: billschaller
Post Number: 68
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, June 11, 2006 - 04:09 pm: |
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Looks like their first car, in 1910 to 1911 had a 3 cylinder in it. so, they must have had a bunch left over, or wanted to explore a new market, with the marine engine.
http://www.wcroberts.org/Images/Chiles_01.gif |
richarddurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 1144
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, June 11, 2006 - 04:32 pm: |
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1911 article that goes with the Paige-Detroit ad above
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billschaller
Senior Member
Username: billschaller
Post Number: 69
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, June 11, 2006 - 04:49 pm: |
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A little more history of the first paige. Of course, maybe I have a car motor, not a marine motor.
http://www.wcroberts.org/Paige_History/1910_Paige-Detroit.html |
keith
Senior Member
Username: keith
Post Number: 112
Registered: 02-2002
| | Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 09:14 am: |
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Richard,
Here is a picture of a Peerless made in Buffalo, NY. It's a 2 cylinder 4 cycle.
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richarddurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 1147
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 11:22 am: |
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Keith
From my notes on Grimm and Peerless!
This T Head engine was the first style that Peerless made 1912-14 with the integral frame for the engine and open Joe's Gear. 1915's and later had enclosed gear !
Peerless had a standard series engine (like your photo above) and a fancier model with magneto and mechanical oiler !
1913 Peerless Stbd side
1913 Peerless Port side
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keith
Senior Member
Username: keith
Post Number: 113
Registered: 02-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, June 18, 2006 - 02:48 pm: |
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Thanks for the Ad's Richard. My engine has the mechanical oiler but no ignition. Would be nice to find that mag. |
