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ken
| | Posted on Thursday, November 08, 2001 - 07:06 pm: | 
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Anybody heard of it?Maybe a pump engine. |
richarddurgee
| | Posted on Sunday, November 11, 2001 - 08:13 pm: |
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Ken:Reading the Nov 2001 issue of Gas Engine magazine, on page 16 is an article on this engine.
built some time in 1930's by The Fire Equipment Division of Pacific Marine Supply Co. Seattle, Wash. Apparentaly built from two Johnson outboard,water cooled, opposed two cyclinder engines, on a portable base directly driving a
pump. |
Frank
| | Posted on Sunday, January 13, 2002 - 02:36 am: |
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Frank,
Your picture didn't load... try again or send it to me by email and I will post it.
Regards,
Andrew
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Frank
| | Posted on Sunday, January 13, 2002 - 11:13 pm: |
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Here Is the Information and picture of the Pacific Marine Pump.
I have two of them. Never tried to run them. Don't know the fuel mix or the spark adjustment lever settings. One will fire on both cylinders & one will fire on one cylinder (bad wire)
Later
Frank Watson
Southeastern VA
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Frank Watson
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2002 - 12:07 am: |
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Here is some pictures
Frank {:-{)
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Frank Watson
| | Posted on Friday, May 10, 2002 - 10:01 am: |
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Does any one know the Fuel-Mix and the proper settings to start and run this type of engine |
ARIELO97
| | Posted on Monday, June 14, 2004 - 07:54 pm: |
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I HAVE ONE BUT DON`T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT YET
LOOKS LIKE A PORTABLE TWO MAN EXTINGUISHER FOR
SHIPS. AS FAR AS I KNOW MOST OLDER ENGINES USED
A 20 TO 1 MIX. |
Monte Jensen
| | Posted on Monday, June 14, 2004 - 11:29 pm: |
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I have one of these pumps. Anyone want to buy it?
[email protected] |
ARIELO
| | Posted on Monday, June 21, 2004 - 09:40 pm: |
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CORRECTION ON OIL MIXTURE,I BELIEVE IT WAS 16 TO 1
OR 1 QT TO 6 GALS. 30 WT. OUTBOARD OIL,I`M NOT
SURE BUT I THINK YOU CAN USE 50 TO 1 BUT USE THE
OLD RATIO. I BELEVE THE DIFFERENCE IS BABBIT
BEARINGS VERSES ROLLERS |
Richard Day
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 07:58 pm: |
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For the old time slow speed 2 strokes the correct mix is 40:1 SAE #30 non detergent. One pint to five gallons of regular gasoline. Don't use modern two stroke oil as it is intended for much higher swept piston speeds and higher temperatures such in weed wackers and chain saws. Modern two stroke outboards were designed to work with 50:l. Using modern two stroke oil in the old timers won't hurt but it will make a much bigger mess as the oil just passes through the basically cold engine and out the exhaust pipe. Won't win you any friends at engine shows or with the coast guard when you leave a big oil slick in your wake. The selection of 40:1 took place about 1910 as it provided good lubrication for cold running engines and most of the oil burned in the combustion chamber and not a lot went down the exhaust pipe. The heavy use two stroke engines tended to be cleaned once a season because of combustion chamber carbon build up. It is my opinion and only that that the pumpers mentioned above operate cold as their cooling water comes from the pump and therefore I would avoid mixtures less than 30 to 40 to 1. 16:1 is the classic Maytag washing machine air cooled mixture. It produces huge clouds of oil smoke and a lot of carbon build up in the cylinder head in these air cooled high temp engines. |
Al Shell
Visitor
| | Posted on Saturday, November 12, 2005 - 06:12 pm: |
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Out board Marine (Lawnboy) had the mixture on the cans. I have one @ my computer that is about 35 to 40 years old. It states 1/2 pint to each gallon (16 - 1). Latter they went to 1/2 pint to 2 gallons (32 - 1). It is a MS service 30 weight oil. Made in Galesburg Ill. Now this was intended for air cooled engines not water cooled. Later on Lawnboy went to a parasyn oil and different mixture. I also have several cans of "Special Formula" that reduces deposits & extends engine life that is 40 weight oil from the same era (16 - 1). |
frank graney
Visitor
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 01:58 pm: |
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Hello; Does anyone know where to get parts for these pumps? I need the bronze pump gears. The type is 2010 - 9.8 hp 80 gpm 100psi 3500rpm. |
solarrog
Senior Member
Username: solarrog
Post Number: 123
Registered: 03-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 03:25 pm: |
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here are some pictures of the opposed pumpers
I hope, I never know if my pictures will work the first try
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Tim Bush
Visitor
| | Posted on Friday, March 19, 2010 - 07:33 pm: |
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Hi, I am from Australia, and own one of these pump/engines. Does anyone have a service manual for one of these? If anyone could either do a copy, or sell one to us I would be happy to pay for it. Regards, Tim} |
axtion_jim
Advanced Member
Username: axtion_jim
Post Number: 37
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2010 - 12:12 am: |
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Hi Tim, Ive just yesterday had a dicussion with a felloe that work on these fire pumps for the forestry service. He has retired from service but still has contacts. He believes that there is some info on this equipment in a file at his old work place and is going to check it out this comming Friday. Will get back to you. |
tedd
New member
Username: tedd
Post Number: 1
Registered: 03-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2011 - 11:42 pm: |
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I have a vintage box of 9 (in original wax) Champion #13 plugs from Pacific Marine Supply co. that I beleive fits these pumps...Anyone interested?  |
solarrog
Senior Member
Username: solarrog
Post Number: 479
Registered: 03-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2011 - 11:55 pm: |
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how much? I have a few of these pumps
Roger |
tedd
New member
Username: tedd
Post Number: 2
Registered: 03-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, March 10, 2011 - 01:29 am: |
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Roger, I sold one plug to a guy last week for $15. He wants the rest of them for $15 each. I'm not sure what the rest of the box is worth...so, I guess, best offer.
Tedd
360 581 2912 |
Bob Birdseye
Visitor
| | Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2012 - 06:28 pm: |
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I have one of these pumps and there is a chamber when looking at the motor on righthand side (there's a bracket inside the chamber). Does anyone know what goes in there? I have not run the pump yet but plan too in the near future. Any info would be greatly appreciated. |
motorace
New member
Username: motorace
Post Number: 3
Registered: 10-2013
| | Posted on Thursday, October 17, 2013 - 09:01 pm: |
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Regarding the Oil/Water ratio, I found this in the Nov 2001 Gas Engine Magazine article referenced above. It applies specifically to the FOUR-cylinder Pacific Marine Supply engine in the article:
Starting and Oiling Instructions for Pacific Marine:
Fill tank with a mixture of gasoline and oil. Zerolene No. 5, manufactured by the Standard Oil Co. of California, or Gargoyle Mobile Oil A. One-half pint oil to a gallon of gasoline. Shake well before pouring - for the first 20 hours of running a new engine use three-quarters pint of oil to a gallon of gasoline.
The entire article can be found online here:
http://www.gasenginemagazine.com/gas-engines/pacific-marine.aspx#axzz2i1vxymDY}} |
cthomas
New member
Username: cthomas
Post Number: 1
Registered: 08-2014
| | Posted on Sunday, August 24, 2014 - 11:46 pm: |
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Does anyone know what one of these engines would be worth? I have one and I got it running to perfection. it's the four cylinder version. I found it seized up buried in the dirt In a wood box. It's taken me almost a year playing around with it to get it all cleaned up and all the minors sues worked out. It's my first antique engine and really excited about getting some feedback. Don't really know much about it other than what I've read here |
Ed Bohlman
Visitor
| | Posted on Friday, May 15, 2015 - 10:43 pm: |
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I have a Pacific Marine Pump i got at the dump, rusty and seized up. It took me almost a year before i got it broke loose and tore down to restore. I set for the balance of five years and just recently i got it out and obtained new rings and the few parts i needed to finish the restoration. It is a forrest service version used on a tank on a one tone truck powered with a nine HP Wisconsin engine. I hope to have it running in a few days, |
Allen Wolf
Visitor
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2017 - 12:03 pm: |
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The two pumps in the photo are pacific marine model Y forest fire pumps. They were the US forest Service standard pumps up through the 1960's-70's. They could be packed in to a fire and set up next to a creek or pond. they were water cooled, with a small discharge hose back into the creek. The fuel tank is separate, also to facilitate pack-in and full-shift running for several days as needed. Some of these were probably mounted on fire engines, but mostly they were "portable". One peculiarity of the engines is that if the pump did not prime immediately, the engine would melt down from overheating. In variable field conditions - getting water from a creek- this was a common problem. Training stressed awareness of this problem. Also, the pump was a gear pump with close tolerances that could be worn out with sand or dirty water. I used these pumps in the 1970's as they were being phased out in favor of the Mark III pump, an air cooled engine with centrifugal pump more forgiving with dirty water. the mark III is still in use. |
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