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bill_b
New member
Username: bill_b
Post Number: 1
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Monday, October 03, 2005 - 08:34 am: | 
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Anybody know how many P-60's may have been produced?
Anybody want to guess as to how many might still be in service?
Bill |
eddie
Senior Member
Username: eddie
Post Number: 74
Registered: 04-2003
| | Posted on Monday, October 03, 2005 - 12:32 pm: |
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From my guess there might be a couple of hundred operating or being held on to. |
richardday
Senior Member
Username: richardday
Post Number: 458
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Monday, October 03, 2005 - 09:00 pm: |
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I have no figures but from Raynal Bolling's comments to me years ago they were a major competitor to Univerasl and the Atomic Four. The basic engine was the IHC CUB LO-Boy tractor engine which I believe over 300,000 were made. Many are still in service. The reason for this engine being so reliable it had a center crankshaft support bearing. My guess is Palmer probably made 500 P-60s a year. The P-60 was a very popular engine in its day. Eddie is probably correct there are probably a couple of hundred still aroung in operational use or in collections. I do know they made for example about 150 PW-27s per year. |
James Morris
Visitor
| | Posted on Friday, November 11, 2005 - 03:43 am: |
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Anyone know where parts can be acquired such as the marine manifold and similar for the Palmer if I have breakdown going down the ICW in my recently purchased Columbia 34 Mark II (1971). Supposedly the Palmer in it still runs... Will see... |
Ron Peterson
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Username: ronfxr
Post Number: 1
Registered: 11-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, November 12, 2005 - 08:27 am: |
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I have a P 60 in a 1967 Blue Chip 30 which is getting water into the carb and cyclinders. I think that it is a problem with the exhaust/intake manafold so I am takeing it off. I would like to know about parts etc also. Thanks Ron |
Eddie Ross
Senior Member
Username: eddie
Post Number: 85
Registered: 04-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, November 12, 2005 - 10:37 am: |
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If it's the manifold it will have to be repaired or replaced by one salvaged from a junked engine. There are no new replacements for the manifold. There are new after market cylinder heads availiable. |
Chip
Visitor
| | Posted on Sunday, November 13, 2005 - 01:16 am: |
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How can I determine the right sequence for distributor to spark plug wires? Several of my wires came off at the distributor and I cannot tell which one goes where. Thanks! |
Richard A. Day Jr.
Senior Member
Username: richardday
Post Number: 478
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, November 13, 2005 - 07:50 am: |
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Face the flywheel. It turns counter clockwise. If any wire is still where it belongs and is connected to the spark plug don't remove it. lift off the Distributor cap. Rotate the flywheel enough so you can see which direction the rotor turns in the distributor. Now look at the tower with the spark plug wire still where it belongs in the distributor cap. The cylinders are no. 1 closest to the flywheel and 4 closest to the distributor.
For this example let us assume number 3 wire is still in the distributor cap. The firing order is 1,3,4,2. This means that counting around the distributor towers in the same direction that the rotor turned when you rotated the flywheel clockwise the misplaced wires will be inserted in the towers 4,2,1. Seems to me that is the easy way to get them back where they belong and you don't have to take out the no. 1 spark plug and look for Top Dead Center on the no. 1 cylinder. If simple scheme fails then pull the number 1 spark plug and rotate the flywheel counter clock wise and note when the air rushes out of the no. 1 spark plud hole. Bring the piston up on TDC on number 1 and note where the rotor is in relationship to the distributor cap. That tower is number one and just plug the other wires in 3,4,2 in the same rotation as the rotor when you rotated the flywheel counter clock wise. It aint rocket science. Regards, Dick Day. |
Matt Farnsworth
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Username: islander252
Post Number: 3
Registered: 08-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, December 01, 2005 - 09:00 pm: |
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Look at the side of the block. In raised letters you might see the following symbols
F I R E I N G O R D E R 4-2-1-3
At least I saw it on my engine, I think below the valve cover. I found stamps on the pistons and I think on the block below (oil pan side). They read: The flywheel is nearest cylinder 4, and 1 is near the distributor.
Since this is numbered exactly opposite of what Richard said it means exactly the same thing as if you just point and don't use any numbers. Of course I'm qouting from memory of what I saw over a week ago, check out your own engine with a flashlight. YMMV |
patrick henry hague
Member
Username: patrickhenryhague
Post Number: 4
Registered: 07-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 09:28 pm: |
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PW-27 question. I've started to disassemble my engine and found parts of the Cam gear (about 1/3 of the gear) in pieces in the crankcase, also on the crank the drive gear is missing teeth due to some type of collision. The gear on the magneto drive is good. This is all of the gear drive assembly, a gear on the cam, a gear on the crank, a gear for the magneto, three gears.
Upon looking at a photograph of the end of a Wisconsin AEH engine (the block assembly is supposed to be identical) I see the gear on the crank, a gear on the cam. there is a gear on the magneetto and an idler gear. Inside the Palmer there is a shaft that looks like goes to an idler gear my engine doesn't have an idler, should there be one or is it unnecessary, or did not having the idler cause the others to fail?
Also does anyone know the procedure for replacing the gear on the crank?
Sincerely,
Patrick |
Richard A. Day Jr.
Senior Member
Username: richardday
Post Number: 640
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 09:57 pm: |
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Patrick the camshaft drive gear also drives the magneto drive gear with the magneto on the flywheel end of its drive gear and the water pump on the aft face of the magneto drive gear. Take the crank to a machine shop or Wisconsin repair shop and have the old gear pressed off and a new one installed. |
