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andrew
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 11:09 pm: | 
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A 3-5 HP Hartford followed me home yesterday.
Two cycle, two port, make'n'break, fresh water engine. Serial number E4223.
Hartford was made by the Gray and Proir Machine Company which is still in business making universal joints. They have a nice online history page.
I have a copy of an illustrated parts catalog for Hartford.
Sorry about the poor photos... they are taken in my van with the light fading.
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miro
| | Posted on Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 08:16 pm: |
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The universal joint made by Gray and Prior are still being to this day in DisPro boats. Many of them last for years in freshwater and regular use. When they break it is usually due to age (corrosion) and they let go with a bang that sounds like you've been hit by a torpedo.
Then you take out the oars ( standard equipment) and row home.
miro |
andrew
| | Posted on Friday, August 23, 2002 - 10:30 am: |
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Miro,
Thanks... I didn't know that.
I have emailed the Gray and Prior Machine company to ask if they have serial number records of the early marine engines. Haven't heard back yet but I will post it here if I do.
Regards,
Andrew |
captainbill
| | Posted on Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 07:12 pm: |
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Nicely done Andrew, I can't get this old iron to "heal", let alone follow me home! Interesting intake manifold/valve assembly! Should sound wonderful. Seeing your pictures reminds me of crossing the St.Lawrence last year from Canada to Clayton with a newly acquired Strelinger 3hp at my side, I had removed the front passenger seat to accommodate this rather large package. Granted , it was 3:00am on a Sunday, but when customs asked if "we folks had any smoking materials or alcohol to declare", answer "no" and they waved "us" through,me and my Strelinger, their was a momentary bonding. Sadly, the situation today post 911 is quite different. Bring a good book just in case the full inspection is called for. Bill |
andrew
| | Posted on Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 11:48 pm: |
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Bill,
Actually this was one of those engines that I had "watched" for years. It was in the corner of a shop at a marina in New York. It only "followed" me after the new owner of the marina agreed to let it go and we ramped it into the van. It did manage to obey the command "stay" until we got home.
When I got it home I took the base access plate off to squirt some oil into the base and onto the rod bearings. I was suprised to see that the lower bearing cap of the connecting rod was held in place with a u-bolt. It looked pretty good but was different than anything had ever seen. I assumed it was a jury rig, but was suprised since everything else on the engine appeared to be perfect. When I got a chance to look at the parts manual I discovered that it is the original arrangement, the lower bearing cap is grooved for a u-bolt... strange.
I crossed the border from Canada some years ago with a small trailer load of engines and there was no delay... I'm sure it is quite different now.
Regards,
Andrew |
andrew
| | Posted on Friday, August 30, 2002 - 03:53 pm: |
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I had a nice phone converstation with Bob Gray of Gray and Prior Machine company. I had sent him the photos of this engine. He was very pleased to get the photos and very interested in the engine.
Unfortunately, they do not have an records, parts, literature, etc. He said they moved out of Hartford in 1974 and anything that might have survived until then would have been scrapped when they moved.
Regards,
Andrew |
richarddurgee
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Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 2486
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, December 11, 2010 - 05:46 pm: |
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1910
Don't think I have seen a twin like this with
dual looped intake ?
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vanemst
New member
Username: vanemst
Post Number: 2
Registered: 01-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2016 - 08:22 am: |
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I just bought a Hartford 2 cylinder, It looks like the engine showed above in the ad. I'm looking for any information on this engine. I was told it was built 1904 -1911?? Kent Van Emst |
richarddurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 3890
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2016 - 06:27 pm: |
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Are there photos that you could post ?
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robert
Senior Member
Username: robert
Post Number: 773
Registered: 07-2003
| | Posted on Friday, October 14, 2016 - 07:17 pm: |
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A very handsome little engine that and quite unique in design. So the rear oil feed does both the wrist pin and the rear main bearing, but the front one does only the main bearing?
If so, it seems a little odd that they didn't get the wrist pin from both ends so that it got equal feed from each side and both oil valves could be set for the same flow.
With the engine canted backwards in a boat the oil would have fed better from the flywheel end. |
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