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Martin demers
New member
Username: martin_derm
Post Number: 1
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Saturday, April 11, 2015 - 09:43 am: | 
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I just found a ferro special engine on my farm land and im wondering if it worth something and if it possible to get it in working condition |
Robert B. Price
Senior Member
Username: rbprice
Post Number: 511
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, April 11, 2015 - 10:54 am: |
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In almost any condition Martin a Ferro is worth restoring. There are lots of posts on OME: just search on Ferro. Some pictures would be nice and if you would like, send them to me and I can post them for you. I also have lots of Ferro catalogs and would be glad to send you one for the cost of the copy and the postage.
Cheers
Bob Price |
Martin demers
New member
Username: martin_derm
Post Number: 2
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Saturday, April 11, 2015 - 11:22 am: |
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Martin demers
New member
Username: martin_derm
Post Number: 3
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Saturday, April 11, 2015 - 11:49 am: |
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Martin demers
Member
Username: martin_derm
Post Number: 4
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Saturday, April 11, 2015 - 12:17 pm: |
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With the photo can you see if there piece missing off the motor |
Robert B. Price
Senior Member
Username: rbprice
Post Number: 512
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, April 11, 2015 - 03:24 pm: |
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Fist up - that is an original Ferro carb so its value is greatly enhanced. Second, it has a drip oiler feeding oil into the fuel/air mixture coming out of the carburetor. Mixing oil with the fuel started approx. 1908-1910 so that tends to date it prior to that. Third is has a timer driven off the crankshaft with a bevel gear rather that a simple lever for the timing: that is good.
If the flywheel turns over you have a really nice engine. If not, remove the plug and squirt in a generous amount of PB Blaster and wait a week and see if has loosened up. |
Martin demers
Member
Username: martin_derm
Post Number: 5
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Saturday, April 11, 2015 - 04:18 pm: |
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Yes it does turn easy and there is a good compression to it |
Martin demers
Member
Username: martin_derm
Post Number: 6
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Saturday, April 11, 2015 - 04:21 pm: |
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The flywheel is easy to turn and as a good compression to it |
Robert B. Price
Senior Member
Username: rbprice
Post Number: 513
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, April 11, 2015 - 04:22 pm: |
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Martin - this link is for a Ferro Special that is on eBay. I think it is way overpriced but it is much like yours so it is a good comparison.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/291130917199?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STR K%3AMEBIDX%3AIT |
Martin demers
Member
Username: martin_derm
Post Number: 7
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Saturday, April 11, 2015 - 04:42 pm: |
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Thank you very much Robert |
Robert
Senior Member
Username: robert
Post Number: 673
Registered: 07-2003
| | Posted on Monday, April 13, 2015 - 11:49 pm: |
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Looks to have been restored not that long ago, judging by the polish on the brass. |
Martin demers
Member
Username: martin_derm
Post Number: 8
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Sunday, April 19, 2015 - 01:24 pm: |
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What do i need to do to get this engine in working order and get it to start |
Robert B. Price
Senior Member
Username: rbprice
Post Number: 514
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, April 19, 2015 - 05:07 pm: |
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Hi Martin - you need to have good compression and by that I mean that when you rock the flywheel it should "bounce" back.
You need to have tight bearings on both ends of the crankshaft so that the piston can create a slight vacuum inside the crankcase to draw the fuel/air mixture in.
You need to have really good spark when the engine gets almost to TDC so the fuel/air mixture fires off. There are several articles on OME about how to build a super hot spark system using some automotive relays. And I have a circuit diagram I can send you if you want to go that way
You need to have a carburetor that creates the proper fuel/air mixture. And the fuel should be a mix of gasoline and 40/1 30 wt. non-detergent oil. Your engine predates the days when oil was added to the fuel to keep things lubricated which is why you have some drip oilers.
Best of all, if you know anyone who collects and restores old hit & miss farm engines offer her a cold six pack of Guinness Extra Stout to help you get it running.
Bob |
Dick Briggs
Advanced Member
Username: dick
Post Number: 31
Registered: 07-2004
| | Posted on Monday, April 20, 2015 - 10:01 am: |
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You will also find excellent advice in the booklet "Palmer Gas Engine Handbook" by Richard Day. It can be purchased from the store of this website. |
Robert B. Price
Senior Member
Username: rbprice
Post Number: 515
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Monday, April 20, 2015 - 10:45 am: |
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True and good advice but the booklet does not come with any Guinness. |
