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John Davis
Senior Member
Username: johnny
Post Number: 348
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Monday, October 11, 2010 - 11:14 am: | 
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My test did not work.
Andrew,
Will this website allow you to embed a video? Like from YouTube? |
James Scott
Advanced Member
Username: axtion_jim
Post Number: 42
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 13, 2010 - 12:19 am: |
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Not sure what is happining, still can`t log on. |
James Scott
Advanced Member
Username: axtion_jim
Post Number: 43
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 13, 2010 - 12:45 am: |
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Hi Andrew, When I go to the log on and click, the screen does a flicker and my name and the password is erased. Some how macafee is blocking even after I allow. I twist wrenchs not computors, sometime I would like to toss them. |
John Davis
Senior Member
Username: johnny
Post Number: 352
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 13, 2010 - 08:46 am: |
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Jim,
Are you sure you are not already logged on? A lot of times when I come onto the site it will auto log me on some how. You did post a message so you must be logged on.
Did I tell you that my dad and I reproduced one of the one piece Detroit fuel injectors? We did our own foundry work and manual machining. Decided it was to much work for the price we would have to sell them at in order for a collector to buy one. Only way to make a little profit would be to machine them using CNC mill and lathe with jigs and fixtures. Not enough demand to spend that much money. I have attached a couple photos of the Detroit reservoir/injector we made and the engine it went on.
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William Schaller
Senior Member
Username: billschaller
Post Number: 343
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, October 14, 2010 - 09:00 pm: |
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Too bad, the real ones are pretty hard to track down. Do you have any extra castings?
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John Davis
Senior Member
Username: johnny
Post Number: 353
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Friday, October 15, 2010 - 08:22 am: |
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Bill, we only did one because we wanted to see how it came out before we wasted time casting others. We do not have a whole lot of experience with doing castings. This is probably about a dozen different parts we have done for different engines and we do not plan on going in the business of doing this. If we do the castings then people are going to want drawings to machine to and neither one of us a draftsman. I have done a few drawing and prints on computer but it was many years ago. I do not have the software now. Would like to get some software and learn how to use it again. Takes money and time. When we machined this reservoir-injector we just took dimension from one of my original Detroit engine reservoir-injector. Dad also reproduce the brass air-intake valve on this Sandow. I may talk with dad about making a few more castings but I'm not making any promises because dad is 75 years old now and I'm still working 40 to 60 hours a week so time is short.
Andrew,
Sorry about posting this subject in this thread. Guess I should have posted it on another area. If you want to move it I promise not to complain. |
John Davis
Senior Member
Username: johnny
Post Number: 354
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Friday, October 15, 2010 - 08:45 am: |
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Bill,
Your engine looks a lot like my dads did before he started restoring it. See photo below. By the way I know a gentleman that reproduces the cast muffles and machines them for this style Sandow if you are interested? They are not cheap around $80 or $90 dollars. That is one of them on my dads Sandow engine. More photos on our website.
http://www.antiquengines.com/Detroit_Engine_Works_Menu.htm
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John Davis
Senior Member
Username: johnny
Post Number: 355
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 02:18 pm: |
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Bill,
I talked with dad and he is not to interested in doing anymore Detroit fuel reservoir-injector castings at this time. They are a real pain to do because of the two cores inside. |
William Schaller
Senior Member
Username: billschaller
Post Number: 344
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 02:53 pm: |
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OK, thanks for asking. Can you send me pictures of how the governor is hooked up? Here is one of my all times favorite photos, it shows the sandow, my 1969 Datsun 521, and my 1963 Datsun NL320.
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John Davis
Senior Member
Username: johnny
Post Number: 359
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Monday, October 25, 2010 - 02:36 pm: |
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Bill, the governor works just like a maytag washing machine engine. The flyweight slings out against the contact points and keeps the contact points from firing. Once the engine slows down enough the spring on the weight and the slower rpm lets the weight comes back in then the points make contact and it fires. make and break engine. The larger 4 & 6hp hopper cooled engines had governor linkage that controlled the air-intake valve. have never seen a 4 or 6hp engine, but original literature states this. |
William Schaller
Senior Member
Username: billschaller
Post Number: 382
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, December 26, 2010 - 10:06 am: |
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John,
I recieved my new muffler, and Lee did a great job. thanks for the tip.
now it is time to move on to injectors. I have picked up two of them,
I assume the best one to use is the acorn injector. I will then have to make the missing parts, and a new float.
A question I have is the third part, it came with my Sandow, and I was wondering if it was a part of an injector?
any advice will be gladly taken. thanks,
Bill |
Ernie
Senior Member
Username: ernie
Post Number: 1301
Registered: 01-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, December 26, 2010 - 10:47 am: |
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That is the fuel adjust needle valve from a 2 part injector. It is missiing the injector tube which is only 1/16th in copper tube. I set the tube length to just miss the piston in the intake port. It goes with the float chamber on the left in the top picture. It may actually be an Acadia or Atlantic marine kerosene valve but should work just fine for what you need.
There are a lot of pics on John's Detroit Pages.
click here for those that may not be familiar with the excellent work John has done. |
John Davis
Senior Member
Username: johnny
Post Number: 371
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, December 26, 2010 - 12:28 pm: |
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Hi Bill,
Hope you had a Merry Christmas. Christmas day I was outside in a t-shirt and short pants about 70 degrees. Today it is 45 degrees and the wind is blowing hard. I'm sure it is a lot colder where you are but 45 degrees is cold for a Florida boy.
Glad you got your muffler and are happy with it. Lee is a good person to deal with. How did you ever manage to come up with two fuel reservoirs and injectors? As I'm sure you already know the acorn top single piece fuel reservoir and injector is what goes on your Sandow hopper cooled engine. Looks like all it is missing is the short nipple that threads into the injector and the cylinder. You will need to figure out what size thread your cylinder has and what size thread the injector has. I have seen them with pipe thread and straight thread. Also missing in the photo is the nut combination check valve that threads onto the bottom of the reservoir. There are photos of the missing items on my website under the identifying engine parts section. The needle valve/injector in your photo does not appear to be original unless it is a water injector which was used on some of the larger hp engines like six hp and up. However it probably would work as a fuel injector for the reservoir on the left in your photo. I'm going to email you my phone number and if you like you can call me. I can give you a few tips on how to set up your fuel reservoir /injector.
http://www.antiquengines.com/Detroit_Engine_Works_Menu.htm |
William Schaller
Senior Member
Username: billschaller
Post Number: 386
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, December 26, 2010 - 01:00 pm: |
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We broke the all time record for Minnesota December snow, and for most of that time I was sick with pneumonia. So, I just spent the last 3 days, after buying a new snowblower, blowing snow, and the snow was deeper than the top of the auger housing. I had to buy a new snowblower because my old one got trapped in the snow, and it was impossible to dig out by hand. I am sure that it was not what my doctor had in mind for a relaxing recovery. It was right at zero degrees this morning, so I am am playing on the internet this morning.
As far as the injectors, it took about 7 years, a lot of swap meets, and a lot of cash to come up with just those two. It would have been easier to buy a Detroit stationary to get those parts. |
RichardDurgee
Senior Member
Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 2526
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, December 26, 2010 - 03:17 pm: |
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A WORTHY TALE FOR CHRISTMAS......
IN THE TRADITION of Charles Dickens!
I’ve just heard from a friend in central Wisconsin ..
He says it has been snowing 2" per hour since sunrise.
His wife has done nothing but stare through the window.
If it doesn't stop soon he’ll probably have to let her in.
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John Davis
Senior Member
Username: johnny
Post Number: 372
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, December 26, 2010 - 05:19 pm: |
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Does not sound like your having much fun bill. That pee-monia is real bad thing. That's what my mom calls it. Any way I hope you are feeling better.
The first Detroit we every got was missing the fuel reservoir and injector was about 2 years until we found one for it.
Good one Richard. Did you buy that Johnson engine from Bobby? |
